A18080:516
The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
Title page typeset from the transcription.
Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
Against my reasons here be bare words / that the pastors are 1never the worse loved, that are thrust upon them. I could have as well as you alleged the experience in other places / if all men ⟨p. CCXXX⟩could have seen it: and have referred them to the manifold fi• tes in law between the pastor / and the people in our churches. How often shall I tell him that the papists are not the church / nor off the church off Christ: and therefore not to be suffered / to have to do with the election off the minister? this needed he not to have asked / if he had had his (to be short) which he repeateth so often / in any commendation. He asketh / whether men always continue in love, off those whom they have chosen. It is easier to continue love / where love is: then both to fall into love of him whom they could not away with / and also to continue the course off that love still. And if the not serving off their affections, breed hatred towards him whom they love: it will much more make it flame against him / against whom it was before kindled.
Againste my reasons here be bare wordes / that the pastors are 1neuer the worse loued, that are thruste vppon them. I coulde haue as well as yow alledged the experience in other places / if all men ⟨p. CCXXX⟩coulde haue seen yt: and haue referred them to the manifolde fi• tes in lawe betwene the pastor / and the people in our churches. How often shall I tell him that the papistes are not the churche / nor off the churche off Christe: and therfore not to be suffred / to haue to doo with the election off the minister? this needed he not to haue asked / if he had had his (to be shorte) which he repeteth so often / in any commendation. He asketh / whether men allwaies continue in loue, off those whom they haue chosen. yt is easier to continew loue / where loue is: then bothe to fal into loue of him vvhom they coulde not awaie with / and also to continew the course off that loue still. And if the not seruinge off their affections, breed hatered towardes him whom they loue: yt will muche more make yt flame againste him / againste whom yt was before kindled.