A18080:521
The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
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And that the magistrate ought to lay to his hand, if the admonitions take not place: it is manifest by the reason which is alleged. I have looked master Zuinglius Ecclesiast over, and over again. The sum whereof is / that none should take upon him any ministry / which is not called of some church / and of the ministers near about / contrary to the practise off the anabaptists: which entered into all churches / and sometime put the pastor beside the pulpit / from which whether you / or we be further / let the reader judge.
And that the magistrate owghte to laie to his hande, iff the admonitions take not place: it is manifeste by the reason which is alledged. I haue looked maister Zuinglius Ecclesiast ouer, and ouer againe. The summe wheroff is / that none shoulde take vpon hym any ministerie / which is not called of some churche / ād of the ministers nere abowte / contrarie to the practise off the anabaptistes: which entred into all churches / and sometime put the pastor beside the pulpet / from vvhich vvhether yow / or vve be further / let the reader iudge.
Where you say / that I forget my self which suppose now the church may err, that said before it was spiritual, and judgeth all things: if you could forget this untrue dealing / I remembered my self well enough. Thes cavils which come so often / without any colour off truth / are utterly unworthy off answer: but as I have said in another place / require rather a censor / then a disputer. Howbeit because there is nothing so unsavoury / which some taste may not be abused by. I have answered it before.
Where yow saie / that I forgett my selffe which suppose now the churche maie err, that said before yt was spirituall, and iudgeth all thinges: if yow coulde forget this vntrue dealinge / I remembred my selfe well enowghe. Thes cauilles which come so often / without any colour off trewth / are vtterly vnworthy off answer: but as I haue saide in another place / require rather a censor / then a disputer. Howbeit becawse there is nothinge so vnsauerie / which some taste maie not be abused by. I haue answered yt before.