The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright

For the first place off Master Calvin / that there are in the Church contemners off God, and which live dissolutely: if the S. had added the next words that such ought with ⟨p. CCXLVII⟩all diligence to be taken away by excommunication: he might have been as hammed / to allege this sentence to so small purpose. The other that Saint Paul meaneth the abstaining from a disordered ¹brother off private society / and not of the public communion: it is true in deed but to no purpose. For withal he confesseth / that the other ought to be severed from the communion. But forasmuch as it is not in the power of a private man to excommunicate / that pertaining (as he saith) unto whole body off the church / by whose consent it ought to be done / and yet in his power to keep him self from his private society: he concludeth against the Anabapt. which abstained from the holy communion if any living offensively were received / that it followed not because S. Paul would have one abstain from private familiarity / therefore he would have him abstain from the communion. Which is no part off our question / and is too shamefully alleged / considering that the place making nothing to this question / striketh stark dead another off his causes / touching the sole excommunication of the bishop. And although it be out off place / yet having gotten the book / it shall not be unprofitable / to admonish the reader off the S. unfaithful dealing in his former allegations off Master Calvin / for where pa. 81. he to conclude that the discipline is not of the substantial notes of the church / allegeth a sentence out off this book: beside that I have showed how evil he concludeth off his words / it is to be noted that in the same book he affirmeth precisely / that the discipline is required to the substance off the church only he denieth that which the Anabaptist. held / that there was no church / where there was no excommunication. Likewise pa. 90. where he would make us believe / that excommunication 19. Math is not by Master Calvin judgement understanded off public offences / Mai. Calvins declareth only that those private admonitions / do not belong unto public offences:

For the first place off Maister Caluin / that there are in the Church contemners off God, and vvhich lyue dissolutely: if the S. had added the nexte wordes that suche ovvght vvith ⟨p. CCXLVII⟩