The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright

In the same place also / upon that I showed that in proper speech / the church / and people differed / having there declared that difference to be / in that the church is the whole / and the people a part thereof▪ this complainer off falsification saith / that I seem to separate the people from the election of the ministers, for that I will not have the word church in the Adm. comprehend the people: which is manifestly against that I set down. For I precisely reprehended him for that upon the word church, used off the Admon. he would have maintained his false insinuation against them / that the election should pertain to the people only: considering that the word church cited off him / was the whole: and the people one part / and necessarily comprehended under it. This is not only falsifying / but flat facing.

In the same place also / vpō that I shewed that in proper speach / the church / and people differed / hauing there declared that difference to be / in that the church is the whole / and the people a parte theroff▪ this complainer off falsificatiō saithe / that I seeme to seperate the people from the election of the ministers, for that I will not haue the worde church in the Adm. comprehend the people: which is manifestly againste that I set downe. For I precisely reprehended hym for that vppon the worde church, vsed off the Admon. he woulde haue mainteined his false insinuation againste them / that the election should perteine to the people onely: consideringe that the word church cited off him / was the vvhole: and the people one parte / and necessarily comprehended vnder it. This is not onely falsifyinge / but flat facynge.

Now to return back / I ask what he needed twice in this division / in so many / and grievous words complain off corrupt dealing? seeing him self flatly affirmeth / as much as I say of him / and otherwise can not maintain his cause. The truth is / that he abstained then from the words electing, and only, because he saw he had nothing to maintain them: which now by my reply / he was driven to put down / or else to forsake his cause. Wherein as he dissenteth from the truth: so he is driven to have a new combat with him self / in that he here maketh it indifferent / and at the discretion of the church in time of persecution / to make elections ether by one / or by the multitude: which is contrary to that he hath before in thes words. Lastly in time of