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The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
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Gregor. Nazienz. speaking there off divers elections / wherein still the people bore one part / and that without controlment: 1speaketh more for that election in that one place / then the D. hath hitherto / or in the residue of his treatise is able to show. And where he might seem to have somewhat nipped at it / in showing how at certain elections some off the people were contentious: he healeth that even in the next sentence to this / saying that at that time it was to be feared, lest he ought to judge the popular regiment better ordered, then their own: and after maketh mention off the corruption off those / which were fellow elders with his father. but observe I pray you again the D. faith fullness / which expoundeth the word churches, the clergy. Where learned he thus to expound? Let it be that as in the scripture sometime / so in the ancient fathers the eldership off a church / is called by the name off church: where can he ever show that the eldership / or as he termeth it the clergy / of one only church / whereof Greg. speaketh / is called by the name off churches? In steed therefore that he should have translated / both the richer, and they off great authority in the church, were clean from that evil: he hath translated / the churches that is to say the clergy, &c taking the nominative plural / for the genitive singular. Which although in the latin tongue / if one take not heed unto the sense / may deceive: yet when the D. had the Greek (which hath 2off the church) before him / as it seemeth by citing the greek in the same place / by and by after: ether he understood it not / or willingly ⟨p. CCLXXXI⟩perverted the meaning. So I leave to the reader / whether I have reasoned to the purpose, or no: and whether you besides words / have any thing at all.
Gregor. Nazienz. speaking there off diuers elections / vvherin still the people bore one part / and that withowt controlement: 1speaketh more for that election in that one place / then the D. hath hitherto / or in the residue of his treatise is able to shew. And where he might seeme to haue somewhat nipped at it / in shewing how at certeine elections some off the people were contentious: he healeth that euen in the next sentence to this / saying that at that time it was to be feared, lest he ovvght to iudge the popular regiment better ordered, then their ovvne: and after maketh mention off the corruption off those / which were fellow elders vvith his father. but obserue I pray yow againe the D. faith fulnes / which expoūdeth the worde churches, the clergy. Where learned he thus to expound? Let it be that as in the scripture sometime / so in the auncient fathers the eldership off a church / is called by the name off church: where can he euer shew that the eldership / or as he termeth it the clergy / of one onely church / vvherof Greg. speaketh / is called by the name off churches? In steed therfore that he should haue translated / both the richer, and they off great authority in the church, vvere cleane from that euill: he hath translated / the churches that is to say the clergy, &c taking the nominatiue plurall / for the genitiue syngular. Which although in the latin toung / if one take not heed vnto the sense / may deceiue: yet vvhen the D. had the Greeke (which hath