The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright

Fourthly / what will he say to that / that the people bridled the rage of the scribes / and pharisees against the truth / and ministers ¹thereof / in that they were a fraide off them? that the Bishop off the church being an Arian / the people have been for the most part Catholic? That also the Emperor hath displaced the catholic bishop / chosen by the church / and placed an Arian? Which disorders being often committed by the Bishops / may by the D. rule / as well deprive them of their interest in ordering / and confirming / as the people in choosing. What also that the evil disposition off the people / hath for the most part proceeded off the moving off their evil governors? So that people divers times good / when the rulers were naught / hath been seldom naught / when their governors were good. besides all this / there are other faults off Simony / off choice off most dissolute / and most unlearned ministers / wherewith the sole election off the bishops is so infamous / and the churches election scarcely to be touched with: that many contentions off the people / would draw less blood off the church / then the choice only off one such blind / and lame minister / as many off the assemblies off the bishops for that purpose / send forth by whole armies.

Fourthly / what will he say to that / that the people bridled the rage of the scribes / and pharises againste the truth / and ministers ¹theroff / in that they were a fraide off them? that the Bishop off the church being an Arrian / the people haue bene for the most parte Catholike? That also the Emperour hath displaced the catholike bishop / chosen by the church / ād placed an Arian? Which disorders beinge often cōmitted by the Bishops / maie by the D. rule / as well depriue them of their intereste in ordering / and confirming / as the people in chosing. What also that the euill disposition off the people / hath for the moste parte proceded off the mouing off their euill gouernours? So that people diuers times good / when the rulers were naughte / hath bene seldome naughte / whē their gouernours were good. besides all this / there are other faultes off Symonie / off choise off moste dissolute / and most vnlearned ministers / wherwith the sole election off the bishops is so infamous / and the churches election scarsly to be touched with: that many contentions off the people / woulde drawe les blould off the churche / then the choise onely off one suche blinde / and lame minister / as many off the assemblies off the bishoppes for that purpose / sende forthe by whole armies.