The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright

Last all / as in other reasons before I have showed / that the D. defending the same cause which the Papists / useth the very self same armour / burnished by the names off Zuinglius / ¹Calvin / Beza / &c. so here he hath the very self same reason / which the Papists used for the bishops sole election / whereunto Calvin maketh answer. For unto the Papists saying / that the people were shut forth because off the contentions / and tumults which happened often times: he answereth confessing there were such motions / and stirs / but that the taking away off the churches election / was brought in for a remedy against those stirs / he affirmeth to be a plain lie. and showeth that there were other ways to meet with those disorders / as to punish them which should move any tumult. And so goeth forward in showing the true cause off the falling away off this liberty / from the church. To all the rest off his reasons I have answered before at large / saving that he hath embossed out this last / with a sentence ²off Chrysostom upon John / drawn from Hosius: who useth this testimony against the election of the church. Where both Hosius / and the Ans. should have learned / to have put a difference between a confused multitude, and the church off God. For I would ask off Hosius (how shameless so ever he be) whether he dare define the church off God / which is the spouse / and body off Christ / to be a certain thing full off tumult, and sturres, consistinge, ad rashly compacted for the most part of folly, &c. and yet ether the answer is not afraid to say / that this is the definition / that is to say the very nature / and unchangeable property of the church off God: or else if he understand it of some other company / he hath said nothing against the election off the church. And verily I can not see / how he could speak more vilely / of the most disordered rout / off most godless people: then he seemeth to do off that assembly / which being endued with the wisdom of the most highest / he calleth a thing consisting off follies: and which being the pillar off truth he likeneth unto waves off the sea. By which similitude the scripture setteth forth the estate of the reprobate / or at least off the wicked which have as yet no ³society with our Saviour.

Laste all / as in other reasons before I haue shewed / that the D. defendinge the same cause which the Papistes / vseth the very selfe same armour / bournished by the names off Zuinglius /