The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright

And where the Ans. opposeth unto us the judgement off one / or two: it is easy to show / not only moe authorities off private men / but the use off the Elder churches / even from the Apostles time: Especially in Alexandria / where the distinction off the Bishop / and Doctor off the church / is so often observed by the ecclesiastical story: also the custom continued in cathedral churches (as they are called) wherefrom time to time beside the Bishop / hath been a reader. And if thes were not distinguished: then must it needs follow / which in an other place the A. denieth / that there were ordinarily two Bishops in one church / considering that beside the Elders / and him which they commonly called the bishop / there was also a Doctor. Nether ought it to be any hinderance to this distinction / that Saint Paul coupleth the Pastor, and Doctor together, where as he sundered the rest that go before, by this word Some. For the conjunction doth not couple them in signification / but maketh them only couples off the liberality off Christ / towards his church. Especially considering that both this conjunction And, is oftentimes a note to couple several members off one division: and the Apostle would rather have said or Doctors, then and Doctors, if he had meant to make them all one. But all this had not needed / if the Ans. would have stood by his former word / in the writing entitled The Doctors book. For in saying / there that the Apostle in the Epistle to the Corint. speaketh only off Apostles, Prophets, and Doctors, Leaving out Evangelists, and yet Evangelists, and pastors necessary: he doth manifestly confess / that thes functions differ between them selves. Nether can he say / that he spake there according to my sense. For I had not then ether spoken / or written any word off that matter.

And where the Ans. opposeth vnto vs the iudgement off one / or twoo: it is easye to shewe / not onely moe authorities off priuate men / but the vse off the Elder churches / euen from the Apostels time: Epecially in Alexandria / where the distinction off the Bishop / and Doctor off the church / is so often obserued by the ecclesiasticall story: also the coustome continued in cathedrall churches (as they are called) wherefrom time to time beside the Bishop / hathe bene a reader. And if thes were not distinguished: thē must it needes follow / which in an other place the A. denieth / that there were ordinarily two Bishops in one church / considering that beside the Elders / and him which they commonly called the bishopp / there was also a Doctor. Nether ought it to be any hinderance to this distinction / that Saint Paul coupleth the Pastor, and Doctor together, where as he sundred the rest that goe before, by this worde Some. For the coniunction dothe not couple them in signification / but maketh them onely couples off the liberalitie off Christe / towardes his church. Especially considering that bothe this coniunction And, is oftentimes a note to couple seuerall members off one diuision: and the Apostel would rather haue saide or Doctors, then and Doctors, if he had ment to make them all one. But all this had not needed / if the Ans. woulde haue stoode by his former worde / in the writinge intitled The Doctors booke. For in sayinge / there that the Apostle in the Epistle to the Corint. speaketh onely off Apostels, Prophetes, and Doctors, Leauing out Euangelistes, and yet Euangelistes, and pastors necessarie: he dooth manifestly confesse / that thes functions differ betwene them selues. Nether can he saie / that he spake there accordinge to my sense. For I had not then ether spoken / or written any worde off that matter.