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The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
Title page typeset from the transcription.
Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
Fifthly / considering that it is common to them all to preach where need requireth / how cometh it to pass / that some being restrained unto a Diocese / other have for their circuit / a whole province / other a whole realm / other two realms off England / and Ireland? or if this diversity off limitation / make diversity off function: let him tell us / which off thes we shall take for Apostles / which for Prophets / which for Evangelists. But there would be no end / if I should pursue all the absurdities / which hang upon this assertion. I come therefore unto that spoken a part off the Evangelists.
Fiftly / considering that yt is commen to them all to preache whereneed requireth / how cōmeth yt to passe / that some beinge restrained vnto a Diocese / other haue for their circuit / a whole prouince / other a whole realme / other two realmes off England / and Ireland? or if this diuersitie off limitation / make diuersitie off function: let him tell vs / which off thes we shall take for Apostels / which for Prophetes / which for Euangelistes. But there would be no end / yf I should poursue all the absurdities / which hang vpon this assertion. I come therefore vnto that spoken a part off the Euangelistes.
He saith that he hath showed by scripture, reason, and authority, 1that though the name off an Evangelist be changed, yet the office remaineth: which is most untrue. For nether hath it any authority at all / and it is both against reason / and scripture / that the office by his saying remaining fully / and in all points: the name should be 2changed. I say by his saying fully / and in all points / forasmuch as that touching writing off the gospel (wherein only he maketh our Evangelists / to differ from those in the Apostles time) shall be showed not to appertain unto the office off an Evangelist / such as Saint Paul speaketh off. Where I said it is against reason / that the name should be taken away: both I said it for that there is a profitable admonition in it / to keep them in remembrance off their duty: and for that it containeth a mark off Honour / above certain other ministers. Which being a part off reward / ought not to be cut of from them / which do faithfully bestow themselves in that office. it is against scripture manifestly: which by this means is set to school / whilst the name which it gave being caste aside / an other as more fit / is received. Whereunto ad / that it is against common experience. For it cometh often to pass / that the duties commanded falling away / the names annexed unto them remain: but that they remaining / the names (especially which carry a note off honour / that men so willingly lay hold of) wear out / is very seldom / or never heard off. So that here I have to thank the D. which putteth me in remembrance off a very probable reason / against all his new