The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright

For the new writers (that the D. if his forehead be not of iron / may learn to blush) I will touch their Judgment only / which he hath alleged for him self. Master Calvin dividing the ministry off the word into Apostles / Prophets / Evangelists / Pastors / and Doctors: affirmeth that the two last only, that is to say Pastors / and Doctors are ordinary. Bucer likewise dividing them into perpetual, and for a time, affirmeth that these pertain unto the state off the former church / and correcteth the D. Ambrose for applying them to his times / by the true Ambroses sentence to the contrary / in the first of his Offic. Peter Martyr using the same division / showeth that the function off Apost. ¹and Prophets / are not in use: and that the ministry of Prophets / is not only expired in respect of telling things to come / but also for the manner off interpreting the scripture. That he speaketh not the same off the Evangelist / was for that the Apostle maketh no mention off him in that place. Musculus divideth the ministries ²off the word, into those which served for the beginning off the gospel, as Apost. Evang. Proph.: and those which continue for ever, as Pastors, Doctors, Elders, Bishops. Bullinger saith the office off Apostleship / Prophetship / and Evangelistship ⟨p. CCCXXVIII⟩³/ were instituted off the Lord for a time: and that thes many ages / even since the foundation off the kingdom off Christ, both Apostles, Evangelists, and Prophets are ceased, into whose place are come bishops, Pastors, Doctors, and Elders. Last off all the confession off the churches / having spoken off all ministries off the word / mentioned off the Apostle: concludeth / that off all those now it is lawful to esteem ministries off the church / Bishops / Elders / Pastors / and Doctors. Thes authors affirming that thes ministries be extraordinary / that they were for a time / that other are come into their places: the reader may see how the D. dealeth with him.

For the new writers (that the D. if his forhead be not of yron / may learn to blush) I will towch their Iudgment onely / which he hath alledged for him self. Maister Caluin diuiding the mynistrie off the word into Apostels / Prophetes / Euangelistes / Pastors / and Doctors: affirmeth that the tvvo last onely, that is to say Pastors / and Doctors are ordinary. Bucer likewise deuiding them into perpetuall, and for a tyme, affyrmeth that these perteine vnto thestate off the former church / and correcteth the D. Ambrose for appliyng them to his times / by the true Ambroses sentence to the contrary / in the fyrst of his Offic. Peter Martyr vsing the same diuision / sheweth that the function off Apost.