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The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
Title page typeset from the transcription.
Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
Nether helpeth it which he allegeth / and that in an other 1place / out off Chrysostom: that the sheep are here reasonable, which are there unreasonable. Wherein first cometh to be observed / how all is fish with the Answ. that cometh to net. To brive the church from the election off her minister / he alleged out off Chrysostom / that the people is nothing but a tumultuous stir, compacted of folly. Here where he would make more elbowroom for the Pastor / they are reasonable sheep / such as can feed themselves / such as can 2provide for them selves. Thus he is content for advantage / both him self to play on both hands: and to draw his Doctor to the same. But if this reason be oftentimes in the reasonable sheep 3more enemy then friend unto the spiritual feeding; if the settled: sheep have naturally more appetite to desire / taste to discern / and 4means to enjoy their convenient feeding / then thes reasonable have for theirs: then this sentence off Chrysostom helpeth not. And it may peradventure seem to smell off the smoke of free will / and off the natural power of man: whereof he is often too loud a preacher.
Nether helpeth yt which he alledgeth / and that in an other 1place / owt off Chrysostome: that the sheep are here reasonable, which are there vnreasonable. Wherein first cometh to be obserued / how all is fish with the Answ. that cometh to net. To briue the church from the election off her minister / he alledged owt off Chrysostome / that the people is nothing but a tumultuous stir, compacted of folie. Here where he would make more elbowroume for the Pastor / they are reasonable sheep / such as can feed themselues / such as can 2prouide for them selues. Thus he is content for aduantage / both him self to play on both handes: and to drawe his Doctor to the same. But yf this reason be oftentimes in the reasonable sheep 3