A18080:712
The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
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Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
That which is spoken off divers beside the Pastor, able to dissolve doubts which arise: not to meddle with the truth thereof / nor to stay in the great gifts required in one / that should comfort him that is cast down / whom the scripture affirmeth to be so care / that a man shall scarce find one amongest a thousand: I answer 1that it helpeth not / not only because they hanging of their Pastor / know not to whom to have recourse: but also considering that the dissolving off the doubt / or comfort according to the necessity ⟨p. CCCXLIII⟩off the person / dependeth not off knowledge only / but upon the blessing which the Lord giveth. that being therefore greater / and more abundant / when it is done by the instrument which the Lord hath sanctified for that purpose: it followeth / that if there were such supplies as he speaketh of: yet the Pastors presence is necessary. And therefore it helpeth him not / which he 2allegeth afterward out off the Coloss. that they should admonish one an other in psalms, &c. but maketh against him / considering that if particular persons / have a duty off admonishing those that are fallen: the Pastor hath much more. And if the lord will not spare the means off the admonition off a private man / for restoring off him that is fallen: he vvill much less spare the ministry off the Pastor.
That which is spoken off diuers beside the Pastor, able to dissolue doubtes which arise: not to meddle vvith the truth thereof / nor to stay in the great giftes required in one / that should comfort him that is cast downe / whom the scripture affirmeth to be so care / that a man shall skarce finde one amongest a thowsand: I answer 1that it helpeth not / not onely becawse they hanging of their Pastor / know not to whom to haue recourse: but also considering that the dissoluing off the doubt / or comfort according to the necessity ⟨p. CCCXLIII⟩off the person / dependeth not off knowledge onely / but vppon the blessing which the Lord giueth. that being therefore greater / and more aboundant / when yt is doon by the instrument vvhich the Lord hath sanctified for that pourpose: yt followeth / that if there vvere such supplies as he speaketh of: yet the Pastors presence is necessary. And therefore yt helpeth him not / which he