A18080:723
The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
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Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
In the next Tract. off the great convenience off preaching before administration off the Sacraments / falling also into this 1treatise (as that which pulleth at the least one of those feathers / wherewith non residentes so willingly take their flight from their own charges) there should have been almost as title to answer / as in the other: if the D. had not used such open false accusations / as he may thereby seem to have striven for the mastery thereof / with the father off them. And first to let pas his correction off the order off my reasoning / whereby he maketh him self more then ridiculous / to all which have a grain off knowledge that ways: to that he saith / that John as minister preached in the wilderness, and baptised in Jordan, and thereupon will conclude / that if preaching before the Sacraments now have ground in Johns example, preaching in the wilderness, and baptizing in rivers have the same: I answer that the case is nothing like. For his preaching in the wilderness / was by special vocation / whereunto he was directed by an express prophecy. This instance therefore is unfitly alleged / which 2albeit it were incident to his ministry: yet that was by extraordinary ⟨p. CCCXLIX⟩calling. The baptizing in Jordan / was for that he sought the commodity off water / as appeareth by other places / where 3he likewise baptized not as the D. pretendeth / for that his ministry called him more to that place / then unto an other.
In the next Tract. off the great conuenience off preaching before administration off the Sacramentes / falling also into this 1treatise (as that which pulleth at the least one of those feathers / wherewith non residentes so willingly take their flight from their owne charges) there should haue bene almoste as title to answere / as in the other: if the D. had not vsed such open false accusations / as he may thereby seem to haue striuen for the mastrie thereoff / with the father off them. And first to let pas his correction off thorder off my reasoning / whereby he maketh him selff more then ridiculous / to all which haue a graine off knowledge that waies: to that he saith / that Iohn as minister preached in the wildernes, and baptised in Iordan, and therupon will conclude / that if preaaching before the Sacramentes now haue grownd in Iohnes example, preaching in the wildernes, and baptizing in riuers haue the same: I answer that the case is nothing like. For his preaching in the wildernes / was by speciall vocation / wherunto he was directed by an expresse propheceye. This instance therefore is vnfitly alledged / which