A18080:724
The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
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It is also untrue / that the Apostles in that they were ministers of the word, preached in all places, and wrought miracles. For then all ministers 1off the word / should do the same. Considering that as whatsoever agreeth unto one man / as he is man / agreeth unto all / even so whatsoever agreeth unto one minister off the word / as he is minister thereof / must needs be verified off all. The reason whereof is more known / then that the D. without blushing / ought thus to be ignorant off: that whatsoever is verified off a general, as general, is verified off all underneath it. Therefore that the Apostles preached the word / they did it in that they were ministers off the word: but that they preached in all places / and joined therewith miracles / they did it not as ministers off the word / but as such ministers / that is to say / extraordinary / and Apostles. Where he saith / there is an other reason off preaching before Johns baptism, then before ours, for that John had to do with those that believed not in Christ, which he calleth a little after infidels, and we have to baptise infants only: to pass by his ignorance off calling the Jews at that time infidels (the only people off God / even before Johns baptism) which notwithstanding deserveth the whip: he ought to understand / that albeit the baptism be administered unto infants / which have no use off preaching yet forsomuch as the knowledge off that ministry / necessarily pertaineth to the whole assembly / and particularly to those which undertake the bringing up off the infants▪ the necessity off preaching before the Sacrament / doth remain.
Yt is also vntrue / that the Apostles in that they were ministers of the word, preached in all places, and wrought miracles. For then all ministers 1off the word / should doo the same. Considering that as whatsoeuer agreeth vnto one man / as he is man / agreeth vnto all / euen so whatsoeuer agreeth vnto one minister off the word / as he is minister theroff / must needes be verified off all. The reason wheroff is more knowen / then that the D. withowt blusshing / owght thus to be ignorant off: that vvhatsoeuer is verefyed off a generall, as generall, is verefyed off all vnderneth yt. Therefore that the Apostels preached the word / they did it in that they were ministers off the word: but that they preached in all places / and ioyned therewith miracles / they did it not as ministers off the word / but as such ministers / that is to say / extraordinary / and Apostles. Where he saithe / there is an other reason off preaching before Iohns baptisme, then before ours, for that Iohn had to doo with those that belieued not in Christ, whhich he calleth a litle after infidels, and we haue to baptise infantes onely: to passe by his ignorance off calling the Iewes at that time infidels (the onely people off God / euen before Iohns baptisme) which notwithstanding deserueth the whip: he owght to vnderstand / that albeit the baptisme be administred vnto infantes / which haue no vse off preaching yet forsomuch as the knowledge off that mynistery / necessarily perteineth to the whole assembly / and particularly to those which vndertake the bringing vp off the infantes the necessitie off preaching before the Sacrament / doth remaine.