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The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
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The 5. Tract. and 6. un the O.The 5. Tract. and 6. vn the O.
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Where he giveth me the lie, for that I ascribe unto him this argument / there must be reading in the church, therefore ministers that can do nothing but read: his words be thes. I see not how you can condemn reading ministers, seeing reading is necessary in the church. let the reader judge what a hard forehead he hath. Where I concluded thereupon / that every one which could break bread, distribute the cup, &c. should be a meet minister: all see that it followeth upon the former reason. And this which the D. counteth a jest, he is not able to answer in his greatest earnest. His answer to the place off S. James is frivolous. For 1his reason why the place off •. Luke commanding the 12. disciples to preach / can not be applied unto our Ministers, is for that other things joined with it were temporal. And this is his reason before / that the example off the Apostles elections is to be followed wholly, or not at all. Therefore the place off S. James / did fully confute his answer: considering that the anointing of the sick coupled with prayer / by the elders off the church / being temporal: the other notwithstanding is perpetual. And this shift that that place was spoken off all ministers, and the other off S Luke off the 12. only, will not cover his shame. ⟨p. CCCLXX⟩For what will he say unto the rules given as the same time / that they should be simple in their ministry as doves, wise as serpents, 2take heed off men? are they not spoken to the ministers now / because they were spoken then to the 12. only? What unto that our Saviour Christ commanded to go into all the world / 3teaching / and baptizing in the name off the Father / Son / and Holy Ghost? which place shaketh him out of both his rags: for that was spoken to the eleven Apostles only / and the commandment off going into all the world / was temporal. Yet I think he dare not deny / but the commandment off baptizing in the name off Father / Son / and holy Ghost / is perpetual / and belonging unto all Pastors. Whereupon followeth that the place off S. Luke standeth still / to whip out unpreaching Pastors. In the pag. 483. this is handled again.4