A18080:773
The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
Title page typeset from the transcription.
The 5. Tract. and 6. un the O.The 5. Tract. and 6. vn the O.
Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
Where he asketh whether I think the praise of preaching, the dispraise of reading: all understand that it is easter to strike water out off a flint / then to find honest dealing in this man. For is this to dispraise reading / to prefer preaching before it? In commending preaching before praying / and private meditation of scripture more then private reading / and practising more then both: do I dispraise private reading / or meditation? and yet the word off God is the same red / meditated / and practised. But this is a Popish practise: which upon that we prefer faith to good works / concludeth that we make no account off good works.
Where he asketh whether I thincke the praise of preaching, the dispraise of reading: all vnderstand that it is easter to strike water owt off a flint / then to finde honest dealing in this man. For is this to dispraise reading / to prefer preaching before yt? In commending preaching before praying / and priuate meditation of scripture more then priuate reading / and practising more then both: doo I dispraise priuate reading / or meditation? and yet the word off God is the same redd / meditated / and practised. But this is a Popish practise: which vpon that we prefer faith to good worckes / concludeth that we make no account off good worckes.
Where upon that preaching is called both planting / and watering 1it is showed that as the husbandman receiveth not fruit, onles both be done, so no salvation to be looked for, where is no preaching: he answereth that there is showed how the word off God is not effectual, onles God give increase: which is to no purpose. For he not only showeth that / but that God giveth his increase through their preaching: and that they be the husbands by whose preaching the Lord maketh his orchard. He answereth further / that in this place there is no comparison between reading and preaching: but considereth not how the scripture giveth this / as also those before cited / unto simple reading / thereby singularly exalting preaching above bare reading. So that although some off thes in some degree / or all extraordinarily may be done by bare reading: yet by thes commendations / as it were by a more precious apparel / is advanced the grace off God / more richly