A18080:776
The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
Title page typeset from the transcription.
The 5. Tract. and 6. un the O.The 5. Tract. and 6. vn the O.
Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
Where he saith / both preaching, and bare reading be necessary in the church: if he mean publicly / as it is true in preaching / so it is untrue in simple reading. For although it be very convenient which is used in some churches / where before preaching time the church assembled hath the scriptures red / in such order that the whole Canon thereof is oftentimes in one year run thorough: yet a number of churches which have no such order of simple reading / can not be in this point charged with breach of Gods commandment: which they might be / if simple reading were necessary. Considering especially that some off them beside their set sermons / expounding every day paraphrastically two chapters / ⟨p. CCCLXXIL⟩with the principal points thereof taken / and applied unto their auditors: gain that which the D. out of Bucer / presupposeth to come only by simple reading / that the scripture thereby is made familiar unto the people. Where he saith they be most profitable: the wine off this error so fumeth into his head / that it hath taken away the use off his tongue. for two things to one and the same end / can not (but very unproperly) be said most profitable. For if preaching be most profitable to work faith by / then is not reading: if reading / then is not preaching. it is true that men sometime speak so) when the question is not of comparison between those things they speak off: but otherwise / it is altogether strange.
Where he saith / both preaching, and bare reading be necessary in the church: yf he meane publikely / as yt is true in preaching / so yt is vntrue in simple reading. For although yt be very conuenient which is vsed in some churches / where before preaching time the church assembled hath the scriptures redd / in suche order that the whole Canon theroff is oftentimes in one yeare run thorough: yet a nombre of churches which haue no such order of simple reading / can not be in this point charged with breach of Gods commaundement: which they might be / if simple reading were necessary. Considering especially that some off them beside their set sermons / expounding euery day paraphrastically two chapters / ⟨p. CCCLXXIL⟩with the principall pointes theroff taken / and applied vnto their auditors: gaine that which the D. owt of Bucer / presupposeth to come onely by simple reading / that the scripture therby is made familiar vnto the people. Where he saith they be moste profitable: the wine off this error so fumeth into his head / that it hath taken away the vse off his toung. for two thinges to one and the same end / can not (but very vnproperly) be saied most profitable. For if preaching be moste profitable to worcke faith by / then is not reading: if reading / thē is not preaching. it is true that mē sometime speake so) when the questiō is not of comparison betweene those thinges they speake off: but otherwise / it is altogether straunge.