A18080:779
The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
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The 5. Tract. and 6. un the O.The 5. Tract. and 6. vn the O.
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Where confessing the word preached and red all one, I 1show notwithstanding that as the fire stirred giveth more heat, so the word as it were blown by preaching, flameth more in the hearers, then when it is red: he answereth that this is to join with the Papists in condemning the scriptures of obscurity. but reason he can show none: and it is all one / as if one should be charged to have said that the Sun is dark / for that he affirmeth it lighter at noon days then at the Sun rising. Then he must understand / that we place not this difference of lightsomeness in the word / which is always in it self most lightsome / red and preached: but partly in the ordinance off God before noted / making that the special means / partly in the darkness of our understanding / which without the aide off preaching can not come to sufficient knowledge off it. Lastly he must learn / that although all things necessary to salvation / might by reading only be understanded: yet it followeth not / that a man may by reading only be saved. For it is one thing to have the scripture in his head / another to have it in his heart: one thing to understand it / another ⟨p. CCCLXXXIIII⟩to believe it / which belief being only able to save / is ordinarily only engendered by preaching.2
Where confessing the vvord preached and red all one, I 1shew notwithstanding that as the fyre stirred gyueth more heat, so the vvord as yt vvere blovven by preaching, flameth more in the hearers, then vvhen it is redd: he answereth that this is to ione with the Papistes in condemning the scriptures of obscurity. but reason he can shew none: and it is all one / as if one should be charged to haue saide that the Sonne is darck / for that he affirmeth yt lighter at noone daies then at the Sonne rising. Then he muste vnderstand / that we place not this difference of lightsomnes in the worde / which is alwaies in it selfe most lightsom / red and preached: but partly in the ordinance off God before noted / making that the speciall meanes / partly in the darcknes of our vnderstanding / which withowt the aide off preaching can not come to sufficient knowledge off yt. Lastely he must learne / that althowghe all thinges necessary to saluacion / might by reading onely be vnderstanded: yet yt followeth not / that a man may by reading onely be saued. For yt is one thinge to haue the scripture in his head / another to haue it in his heart: one thinge to vnderstād yt / another