A18080:802
The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
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The 5. Tract. and 6. un the O.The 5. Tract. and 6. vn the O.
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Where also go to the ground other absurdities / laid upon this foundation: as that the promise off the assistance off gods spirit, is as well given to writers of homilies, and their hearers: as to studiers for 1sermons, and those which hear them. as if he had said / the Lord will give testimony to his word / as well by the means which men have devised: as that him self hath ordained. Likewise that sermons should be kept out off the church, as well as homilies, if they should be shut 2out because they are mens interpretation. considering that the preacher albeit he be a man / yet in respect off his public ministry / instituted / and command of the Lord / is as the angel off God / yea as Christ him self: which can not be said off homily readers / 3nor makers / especially in that respect. To that I allege off the custom off the Churches / before our Saviour Christs coming / and after / touching homilies not used in the church, and that in such time when there was greatest use off them: he answereth / that the argument is of authority negatively. where I leave to the judgement off the reader / what likelihood there is / that there were any homilies red in the church / when both holy / and ecclesiastical writers / making mention of the form of service of God in the church / to the least / and smallest ceremonies: there is none divers 100. years / that ones vouchsafeth to mention homilies reading / which the D. matcheth with preaching / the highest service off God in his church.
Where also goe to the ground other absurdities / laied vppon this foundacion: as that the promesse off the assistance off gods spirit, is as well gyuen to writers of homilies, and their hearers: as to studiers for 1sermons, and those which heare them. as if he had saied / the Lord will giue testimonie to his word / as wel by the meanes which mē haue deuised: as that him self hath ordeined. Likewise that sermons should be kept owt off the church, as well as homilies, if they should be shut 2owt because they are mennes interpretation. considering that the preacher albeit he be a man / yet in respect off his publicke ministery / instituted / and commaund of the Lord / is as the angell off God / yea as Christ him self: which can not be saied off homily readers /