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The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
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I report me whether I have spoken to the meaning or no: you have mustered them by first, second, third, I will also answer them severally. And to the first I answer / that although our Savi. Christ ⟨p. CCCCXXVII⟩said not, no man ought to be great amongest you: yet he said as much. for when he saith / the greatest shall be as the least, he that is first, as servant to all: he fetching down the greatest to the least / and making the cheiftie amongest them a service unto them all: taketh away all dominion off one over an other. This reason I having answered before / was unneedful to be here repeated. so remaineth for him to prove / that if our Saviour Christ had meant to take away all dominion off the Apostles, one over an other: then he would have said, no man ought to be great amongest you, and that there was no other way to give out this sense but this. The second concludeth / that our Saviour had no meaning to take away superiors amongest Christians, nothing to this question. For no man denieth / but there ought to be superiors. As for that he interlaceth off Peter• cheifty: it is answered afterward.
I report me whether I haue spoken to the meaning or no: yow haue mustered them by fyrst, second, third, I will also answer them seuerally. And to the first I answer / that although our Saui. Christ ⟨p. CCCCXXVII⟩saied not, no man owght to be great amongest yow: yet he saied as muche. for when he saith / the greatest shalbe as the least, he that is first, as seruant to all: he fetching downe the greatest to the least / and making the cheiftie amongest them a seruice vnto them all: taketh away all dominion off one ouer an other. This reason I hauing answered before / was vnneedfull to be here repeated. so remaineth for him to proue / that if our Sauiour Christ had ment to take away all domynion off the Apostles, one ouer an other: then he would haue saied, no man owght to be great amongest yow, and that there was no other way to giue owt this sense but this. The second concludeth / that our Sauiour had no meaning to take away superiours amongest Christians, nothing to this question. For no man denieth / but there owght to be superiours. As for that he interlaceth off Peter• cheifty: it is answered afterward.