The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright

The similitudes he useth / can not win his superiority off one minister over an other. For as for heavenly bodies, although one off them be more excellent then an other: yet they exercise no dominion one over an other. Therefore if it prove any thing: it proveth that excellency off gifts amongest ecclesiastical persons / doth not lift them up in authority / and commandment one over an other: but only maketh a difference in order / and comeliness. Which we have showed in the beginning to be in ecclesiastical ministry: where we willingly receive order / opposed to confusion: refusing dominion opposed unto subjection. For the heavenly spirits. what will you allege to prove / that they have dominion one over an other? The place of the Ephesians / thrones, dominions, principalities, powers? if you do: it is bolder then Augustine durst do. But if they be superior one to an other: that superiority is ¹answered in the church by superiority off ministers over the people. If they be severed in orders one from an other: that is not denied to be in officers off the church. If they exercise dominion one over an other: that is expressed in common wealths. So that if the Answ. were able to prove all these / which will be hard for him without Denis's dreams: yet he may see they conclude not a dominion / off one minister over an other. The third reason likewise / concludeth not against this cause: and to thes two reasons ⟨p. CCCCXXVIII⟩I answered at large. Which if the Ans. would have taken away: he ought to have showed / that there can be no superiority of one over an other in the church / onles one minister be superior to another. but that he passeth slyly by / and picketh a quarrel unto the examples.

The similitudes he vseth / can not win his superioritie off one minister ouer an other. For as for heauenly bodies, althowgh one off them be more excellent then an other: yet they exercise no dominion one ouer an other. Therfore if it proue any thing: it proueth that excellency off giftes amongest ecclesiasticall persons / doth not lift them vp in autoritie / and commaundement one ouer an other: but onely maketh a differēce in order / ād comelines. Which we haue shewed in the beginning to be in ecclesiasticall mynistery: where we willingly receiue order / opposed to confusion: refusing domynion opposed vnto subiection. For the heauenly spirites. what will yow alledge to proue / that they haue domynion one ouer an other? The place of the Ephesians / thrones, domynions, principalities, povvres? if yow doo: it is boldier then Augustine durst doo. But if they be superiour one to an other: that superioritie is