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The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
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Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
You may deny if you will that the snow is white. By (all thes places) must needs be understanded those which Musc. off whom you speak / doth interpret: but your self had said 1before / that he expoundeth those three off S. Math. Mark / and Luke: therefore although you added not three, yet that must needs be understanded. And in this your shift you break your grammar's head: seeing Aristotle teacheth that the number of three, is the least number that this word all can be verified off. 2Where you said Christ did not say no man shall be great amongest them: my answer was that he had said that before, and needed not to repeat it, whereunto you answer nothing. The place I alleged out of S. Luke / overthroweth your answer. For if by thes words whosoever vvill be great, desire off dominion had been only found fault with: then he would not have spoken simply / whosoever amongest you, without adding any thing off ambition / or desire to rule: and to this you answer nothing / but cover your self only with Musc. authority. For where you say / you spake as the words be▪ you understand well that they do not specify any ambition / which you must needs mean / or else you maintain not your answer. Where you say, S. Lukes words make against me, as which insinuate that there must be some great amongest them: you take it otherwise then it is. For if you will not admit the interpretation I alleged / in referring this greatness unto excellency of gifts one above an other: nor Call. interpretation savoureth not in your taste, that it is as much as if our Saviour should say, your greatness, excellency, and dignity shall be, in submitting ⟨p. CCCCXXXIII⟩your selves unto you brethren: yet you vvill not refuse Bucer / whom you here build upon. which by great in this place / understandeth him that is elder in age: and proveth it by the word 3younger, opposed to him. And it is not unlike but one of those reasons / whereby some off those disciples would have grounded their principality over other their fellows / was for that they were ancienter in years. Which soever of thes expositions you admit: you see that to be great here / signifieth nothing less / then any dominion off one minister over another.