A18080:865
The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
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Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
For your example off the Pope called most holiest, &c. it is nothing like. For men deceived by error / call him so: and although they say untruly / yet they speak as they think / which can not be in this case, considering that no man can be abused by a false opinion off his bountifulness / which not only giveth not / but is an oppressor. And although as there are found which knowing the wickedness off the Pope / call him notwithstanding most holy: so there be which knowing the illiberality off their Princes / call them notwithstanding bountiful: yet you should have considered / that S. Luke speaketh not here / how Princes are called off certain particular persons: but by what titles they are called generally / of all their subjects. So that if you would have spoken to purpose / you should have showed / that it is a common thing for tyrants / to be called generally of their subjects whom they pill / bountiful: and that which is harder for you to do / that ⟨p. CCCCXXXV⟩men will call ministers bountiful / which give nothing. Otherwise the interpretation which you imagine / hath no place.
For yowr example off the Pope called most holiest, &c. yt is nothing like. For men deceiued by error / call hym so: and althowgh they say vntruly / yet they speake as they thinck / which can not be in this case, considering that no man can be abused by a false opinion off his bountifulnes / which not onely giueth not / but is an oppressor. And although as there are found which knowing the wickednes off the Pope / call him notwithstanding most holy: so there be vvhich knowing the illiberalitie off their Princes / call them notwithstanding bountifull: yet yow should haue considered / that S. Luke speaketh not here / how Princes are called off certein particular persons: but by what titles they are called generally / of all their subiectes. So that if yow would haue spokê to pourpose / yow should haue shewed / that it is a cōmen thing for tyrantes / to be called generally of their subiectes whom they pill / bountifull: and that vvhich is harder for yow to doo / that ⟨p. CCCCXXXV⟩men will call ministers bountifull / which giue nothing. Otherwise the interpretation vvhich yow imagine / hath no place.