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The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
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Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
You allow nothing which maketh against you / and that you may say true all Scriptures be they never so plain / must be falsified. The place off the Chronicles in the 29. chapter / is no collection / but the plain and manifest words off the Scripture / and so clear that it was not possible to have had clearer words. For after that the holy ghost had said / that the levites the priests brethren / had helped them until the work were done / and until the priests had sanctified them selves / he addeth the reason [Greek or Hebrew] that is, for the levites were more upright in heart in sanctifying them selves then the priests. And here the faith of the Answerer which he useth with his reader is to be observed. Which having one only translation to maintain him self / against a manifest truth of the scripture / hath followed that / and left not only the truth of the Hebrew / but all other translations both of the greek (whereof the old interpreter is nothing else but a translator) and of the latin Munster / Pagnine / Leo Judah / Castalio and other translations in other languages / which I am persuaded with one full consent / have amended the error off the vulgar translation in latin. and yet he is not ashamed to say / that some tram slatiō seemeth to insinuate sone such thing as I have set down / in stead that he should have said: all translations the old only excepted / so expound it: he speaketh as though some one translation only had so turned. And in steed that he should have said they plainly and clearly declare it / he saith that it seemeth in some translation to insinuate: and where he should have said / the same thing that I have set down he saith some such thing. And on the other side when he speaketh of the translation Which serveth his humour. He saith / That if credit ⟨p. XIII⟩may be given to those which be notable learned men, speaking in the plural number / as though there were a number / that had so translated it: when beside the old translator / he is not able to show so much as one. For where he saith that Pelican translateth those words / &c. he is a-abused: for they are the words off the old translator / and not off Pelican / who never set forth any translation. I grant that Pelican being deceived by the old interpreter so expoundeth it:
Yow allow nothing which maketh against yow / and that yow may saye trew all Scriptures be they neuer so plaine / must be falsified. The place off the Cronicles in the 29. chapter / is no collection / but the plaine and manifest wordes off the Scripture / and so clere that it was not possible to haue had clerer wordes. For after that the holie goste had said / that the leuites the priestes brethern / had helped them vntill the worke were done / and vntill the priestes had sanctified them selues / he addeth the reason that is, for the leuites vvere more vpright in harte in sanctifyinge them selues then the priestes. And here the faithe of the Answerer which he vseth with his reader is to be obserued. Which hauing one onelie translation to meintaine him selfe / against a manifest truthe of the scripture / hathe followed that / and left not onely the trewthe of the Hebrew / but all other translatiōs bothe of the greke (wherof the oulde interpretour is nothing els but a translator) and of the latin Munster / Pagnine / Leo Iuda / Castalio and other translations in other languages / which I am perswaded with one full consent / haue amended the error off the vulgar translatiō in latin. and yet he is not ashamed to saie / that some trā slatiō semeth to insinuate sōe suche thīge as I haue set dovvne / in steede that he should haue said: all trāslatiōs the ould onelie excepted / so expound it: he speaketh as thowghe some one translation onely had so turned. And in steed that he should haue said they plainelie and clerelie declare it / he saith that yt semeth in some translation to insinuate: and where he should haue said / the same thinge that I haue sett dovvne he saith some suche thinge. And on the other side when he speaketh of the translation Which serueth his humor. He saith / That yff credit