The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright

That out of Pelican, and again and again out off Calvin, are such as granted / conclude not against this cause. That the learned writers say, God charged the Jews with ceremonies of his own, that they should have no leisure to use any other: they never use it to prove that there is more liberty to the church now / then in times past / to devise any thing: but it is their buckler which they hold out against the Papists / who by example of that church / would ⟨p. CCCCXLVI⟩lode this now with such a multitude off ceremonies. Therefore he doth not in this allegory follow their authority: but rather clean contrary / walketh herein in the Papists steppes. Which where they are pressed / by this so diligent prescript off all things by the word of God in the old people: answer as the D. that that was done for the rudeness off that people / and because they were but children / and that it were injury to the church off Christ / to shut her up so short as that was. Where he concludeth of them / that there was only expressed what should be done in the worship off God, and not in external policy: first there be no such words whereupon he may pull in that (and not in the external policy). And in deed it is not to distinguish / but to pull in pieces. for what worship off God can there be in the assemblies of Christian men / without the ministry of the word / without external policy / without administration of Sacraments / without praying openly / and with outward sound? all which are external. When Calvin calleth it spiritual worship, his meaning is nothing less / then to oppose spiritual to all external / done with mouth / and other partee of the body: but he calleth it spiritual / by comparison off the worship of God under the law / which consisted in corporal washings / cleansings apparel / &c. and this is that which ether abuseth him: or wherewith he would abuse other.

That out of Pellicane, and againe and againe out off Caluin, are such as graunted / conclude not against this cawse. That the learned writers say, God charged the Iewes with ceremonies of his owne, that they should haue no leysure to vse any other: they neuer vse it to proue that there is more libertie to the churche now / then in times past / to deuise any thing: but it is their buckler which they hold owt against the Papistes / who by example of that church / would ⟨p. CCCCXLVI⟩lode this now with such a multitude off ceremonies. Therfore hē doth not in this allegorie follow their autoritie: but rather clean contrary / walketh herin in the Papistes steppes. Which where they are pressed / by this so diligent prescript off all thinges by the word of God in the ould people: answere as the D. that that was doon for the rudenes off that people / and because they were but children / and that it were iniurie to the church off Christ / to shut her vp so short as that was. Where he cōcludeth of them / that there was onely expressed what should be doon in the worship off God, and not in externall policie: first there be no such wordes wheruppon he may pull in that (and not in the external policie). And in deed it is not to distinguish / but to pull in peeces. for what whorship off God can there be in the assemblies of Christiā mē / withowt the ministerie of the word / withowt externall policie / withowt administration of Sacramentes / without praying openly / and with owtward sound? all vvhich are externall. When Caluin calleth yt spirituall worship, his meaning is nothingles / then to oppose spirituall to all externall / doon vvith mouth / and other partee of the body: but he calleth it spirituall / by comparison off the worship of God vnder the law / which consisted in corporall washinges / cleansinges apparell / &c. and this is that which ether abuseth him: or wherwith he would abuse other.