The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright

Where he thinketh there was no cause to speak off him, for that he differeth not from a bishop in ministry off the word, but in order, and government only, and that therefore it is no divers ministry from the bishops office: by the same reason I may say / that S. Paul needed not to have mentioned Pastors / &c. For the Pastors preached the word / as the Apostles. But if this one difference although there were no moe / make the ministry of Apostles / and pastors divers / that ⟨p. CCCCLI⟩the one hath charge off one only church / the other off a•ry• must follow / that the ministry off an archbishop is divers from the bishops / the one watching over a whole province / the other over a diocese only. Yea it is plain off that spoken before off the Archbishops new ministry / that there are as many / or moe things whereby he differeth from a bishop: then any of thes ministries S. Paul reckoneth up / differ one from an other. His answer to the place off the Corinth. consisteth in that he would prove / that the division off offices there, is perfect. Wherein it it easy to see what extremity my reply (which he calleth a vain shift) drave him unto: and how he could not cover his nakedness here / but with discovering an other place as unseemly as this. For amongest his answers to the place off the Ephes. whereby he would prove / that that division is not perfect / this was one in the latin pamphlet / that to the Corinth. S. Paul speaketh off Apostles, Prophets, and Doctors, leaving out Evangelists, and Pastors: and now to avoid my reply to that answer / he saith / clean contrary / that the Apostle made there a perfect division of offices. But let us see whether this change be for the better.

Where he thincketh there was no cause to speake off him, for that he differeth not from a bishop in ministerie off the word, but in order, and gouernement onely, and that therfore yt is no diuers ministerie from the bishops office: by the same reason I may say / that S. Paul needed not to haue mentioned Pastors / &c. For the Pastors preached the word / as the Apostles. But yf this one difference alhough there were no moe / make the ministerie of Apostles / and pastors diuers / that ⟨p. CCCCLI⟩thone hath charge off one onely church / thother off a•ry must follow / that the ministerie off an archbishop is diuers from the bishops / thone watching ouer a whole prouince / thother ouer a diocese onely. Yea it is plaine off that spoken before off the Archbishops new ministerie / that there are as many / or moe thinges wherby he differeth from a bishop: then any of thes ministeries S. Paul reckeneth vp / differ one from an other. His answer to the place off the Corinth. consisteth in that he would proue / that the diuision off offices there, is perfect. Wherin it it easie to see what extremitie my reply (which he calleth a vaine shift) draue him vnto: and how he could not couer his nakednes here / but with discouering an other place as vnsemely as this. For amongest his answers to the place off the Ephes. wherby he would proue / that that diuision is not perfect / this was one in the latin pamphlet / that to the Corinth. S. Paul speaketh off Apostles, Prophetes, and Doctors, leauing owt Euangelistes, and Pastors: and now to auoide my replie to that answer / he saith / cleane contrarie / that the Apostle made there a perfect diuisiō of offices. But let vs see whether this chaūge be for the better.