The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright

Where he saith / Saint Paul did more perfectly divide to the Corinth. then to the Ephes. he is deceived. For even by his own confession / he speaking there of preaching offices only / not off all offices off the church / and there being none other preaching offices / but those which he reckoneth up: it followeth that he made there a perfect division. In the place to the Corinth. that there is no perfect division / although the D. words he changed / yet his reason he used standeth still: that the Evangelist is not there mentioned, nor Pastor, which were offices in the church. Beside that he keepeth in this refutation his old wont: which is to cut the knot / and not to lose it. For he bringeth reasons of his to prove the perfection of the division / without answering mine. And yet his be such / as are unworthy answer. For in the first / beside that it is untrue / that the Apostle made a perfect division of gifts in the church: if he had / yet it followeth not that he made the same in offices / especially when he will needs separate offices from gifts. The second reason (therefore it is a perfect division, because there is added first, second, third) is as simple as the first. for those words are not put there to note the number of offices ⟨p. CCCCLII⟩/ but to declare which is highest in degree / and which next / &c. and if they did: yet I never could yet read / that they were notes off a perfect division. His third (because it hath moe members then that in the Ephes•.) I think he understandeth by this time what strength it hath: if he remember that which I answered / that the Apostles meaning to the Eph. was / not to divide the offices of the church in general / but those only which handle the word. onles par adventure he think / that he maketh a fuller partition / which divideth both the hands into eight fingers / then which divideth one into five. Martyrs authority doth not help him. For he saith not that he reckoneth all the parts of the church particularly / or how many it hath / which he should have said to help him: but only that he reckoneth up what members the church hath / which he doth that rehearseth some.

Where he saith / Saint Paul did more perfectly deuide to the Corinth. then to the Ephes. he is deceiued. For euen by his owne confession / he speaking there of preaching offices onely / not off all offices off the church / and there being none other preaching offices / but those which he reckeneth vp: yt followeth that he made there a perfect diuision. In the place to the Corinth. that there is no perfect diuision / although the D. wordes he chaunged / yet his reason he vsed standeth still: that the Euangelist is not there mentioned, nor Pastor, which were offices in the church. Beside that he kepeth in this refutatiō his ould wont: which is to cut the knot / and not to lose yt. For he bringeth reasons of his to proue the perfectiō of the diuision / withowt answering mine. And yet his be such / as are vnwothy answer. For in the first / beside that yt is vntrue / that the Apostle made a perfect diuision of giftes in the church: if he had / yet it followeth not that he made the same in offices / especially whē he wil needs separate offices from giftes. The second reason (therfore yt is a perfect diuision, because there is added first, second, third) is as simple as the first. for those wordes are not put there to note the nōbre of offices