A18080:916
The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
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This is dainty / and tender gear / and such as I can not deal with. divers times before his answer hath been / that the archbishop's 1ministry differeth from the Bishops touching order: here he saith / they differ not in order. before to prove that the church might appoint an archbishop / he said / that it might appoint an 2office / beside the offices off the scriptures: now he is gone from that / saying the Archbishops ministry is no other ministry, but an other ⟨p. CCCCLXVIII⟩degree. Also in an other place / he to maintain the archbishop saith / the church may ad ministeries: here because he is ashamed off that / he 3denieth that it is a new ministry. Then forasmuch as his answer standeth in this difference / off ecclesiastical office / and degree / and again between ecclesiastical degree / and order: because I think they were never heard off before / they need some authority off the scripture / at least some Ecclesiastical writers to confirm them. And beside that in ecclesiastical writers / the ministries are separated one from an other by degree: the Ans. 4him self in an other place / will have the word degree (when it is said / they get unto them selves a good degree) to signify a divers ministry from the Deaconship. Likewise in an other place / to prove that a Bishop is above a priest / he upon certain authorities 5concludeth / that in those times there were three degrees off ministers / bishop / priest / and deacon. whereupon it must follow / that if the Archbishop differ from the bishop in degree ecclesiastical: he must differ in ministry / even as the degree off deacon / being different from the Elder / maketh a several ministry from it. yea thereupon followeth / that there being then but three degrees in the church / whereof the archbishop was none by his own saying: there was then no archbishop / seeing he maketh him a several degree from them: which is a manifest overthrow off that he defendeth.