The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright

To prove that S. Peter by him self / without the authority off other Apostles / instituted Archbishops / is brought the example off S. Paul, which made Timothy, and Tite Archbishops: which is to prove one thing in controversy / by that which is likewise. and is all one as if one doubting the sufficiency off his creditor / in steed off some substantial man to assure his debt / should have a bank rout brought to be bound unto him. Which manner off reasoning when all men know how absurd it is: it appeareth that the Ans. using it continually / is (as they say) at the end off his roll. That S. Paul did not appoint Titus / and Timothy of his own ¹authority only / hath before appeared: that he did not appoint them Archbishops / shall afterward (God willing) be showed. Beside that it hath been already off Timothy showed / that he was an Evangelist: and the same reason is off Tite.

To proue that S. Peter by him self / withowt the autoritie off other Apostles / instituted Archbishops / ys browght the example off S. Paul, which made Timothe, and Tite Archbishops: which is to proue one thing in controuersie / by that which is likewise. and is all one as if one doubting the suffiencie off his creditor / in steed off some substanciall man to assure his debt / should haue a banck rowt browght to be bownd vnto him. Which manner off reasoning when all men know how absurd it is: it appeareth that the Ans. vsing it continually / is (as they say) at the end off his rolle. That S. Paul did not appoint Titus / and Timothe of his owne ¹autoritie onely / hath before appeared: that he did not appoint thē Archbishops / shall afterward (God willing) be shewed. Beside that yt hath bene already off Timothe shewed / that he was an Euangelist: and the same reason is off Tite.

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To my other reason / that S. Peter would not graft the most noble plant (as it is counted) off the ministry off the gospel / in the rotten stock off Archflamines: he answereth that Peter might place Archbishops where the Archflamines were, not in respect off them, but in respect off the city. Which distinction I confess I understand not: only I see / that in this cloud / and mist off confused / and undistinct distinction / he would steal away unespied. for if in the same cities only where there were Archflamines (as we are borne in hand) and in place off them Archbishops were placed: and as the Archflamines were set to oversee the flamens / so the Archbishops to oversee the bishops: how can it be but they were placed as well in respect off those Achflamines / as off the cities? For they differ not in this point from Archflam. considering that as archbishops were placed in respect off great cities: so were the Archflam. before them. Here also the Answ. floateth in his judgement