The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright

There remaineth only Epiphanius, the first off ancient writers that gave this name place in his writings. I am content therefore let this be the first flight off that name in to the church: which being about the year off our Lord 389. at what time Ephanius flourished / near upon 400. years: it is apparent that both the Ans. is greatly overshot / which would make us believe this name to have been from the times of the Apostles: and that I kept my self within my bounds / in saying the name off Archbishop can not be showed in any allowed writer, by the space off 300 years after Christ. As for that he would prove it to have been in Peter the bishop of Alexandria's time, which was before the Nicene council, because Epiph. doth call him Archbishop: it hath been often answered / that that title was not of the Person / but of the times wherein Epiphanius wrote. For when the writers before him / and those in Peters time / speaking off Peter call him bishop always / ¹and not archbishop / and not him only / but Achilles / Alexander / and Athanasius / which succeeded him: is there any man of so small judgement / as not to understand that this alteration off title / came off the alteration off times? So we see that off all the testimonies the Answ. hath mustered / there is not one that hath stricken one stroke / in the quarrel off that antiquity off the name off Archbishop.

There remaineth onely Epiphanius, the firste off auncient vvriters that gaue this name place in his vvritinges. I am content therfore let this be the firste flight off that name in to the church: which being abowte the yeare off our Lord 389. at vvhat time Ephanius florished / neere vppon 400. yeares: yt is apparant that both the Ans. ys greatly ouershot / which would make vs belieue this name to haue bene from the times of the Apostles: and that I kepte my selfe within my boundes / in saying the name off Archbishop can not be shevved in any allovved vvriter, by the space off 300 years after Christ. As for that he would proue yt to haue bene in Peter the bishop of Alexandrias tyme, which was before the Nicene cocell, becawse Epiph. doth call him Archbishop: yt hath bene often answered / that that title was not of the Person / but of the times vvherin Epiphanius vvrote. For vvhen the vvriters before him / and those in Peters time / speaking off Peter call him bishop allwayes / ¹and not archbishop / and not him onely / but Achilles / Alexander / and Athanasius / which succeded hym: ys there any man of so smail iudgement / as not to vnderstand that this alteracion off title / came off the alteracion off times? So we see that off all the testimonies the Answ. hath mustred / there is not one that hath stricken one stroke / in the quarell off that antiquitie off the name off Archbishop.