A18080:971
The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
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To that I alleged off the names off Acolytes / and Subdeacons / &c. ancient / and yet not convenient: he answereth / peradventure they were profitable. So the profit off the archdeacon being yet upon the die / and in doubt: we must notwithstanding have him thrust upon us. To that off Monks ancienter then the archdeacon / he answereth nothing: but that it followeth not if they were unlawful, that the archdeacon is so. but it followeth well that if the monk / with others are antichristian / notwithstanding their auncientie: that it is an evil proof you use / that the archdeacons &c. are not Antichristian / because they were ancient: wherein stand all your proofs. Whereas he saith / his purpose was only to show the antiquity of thes names, and therefore I do him wrong, which require he should have brought the approbation of thes authors touching them: both he hath undertaken to prove / that thes names are not against the word / and after he concludeth upon thes restimonies / 1that thes names are not only ancient, but allowed off the best, eldest, worthiest writers, and councils. So appeareth that my accusation is just / 2and that he toke upon him to great a burden. As for the auncientie off the name Archdeacon / it is not showed before almost 400. years after Christ: which times how corrupt they were / hath in part / and will after more appear.
To that I alledged off the names off Acoluthes / and Subdeacons / &c. auncient / and yet not conueniēt: he answereth / peraduenture they were profitable. So the profite off tharchdeacon being yet vpon the die / and in dowbt: wee muste notwithstanding haue him thruste vpon vs. To that off Monkes auncienter then thardeacon / he answereth nothing: but that yt foloweth not if they were vnlawfull, that tharchdeacon is so. but yt foloweth well that if the monke / with others are antichristian / notwithstanding their auncientie: that yt is an euill proofe yow vse / that the archdeacons &c. are not Antichristian / becawse they were auncient: wherin stand all yowr proofes. Wheras he saith / his pourpose was onely to shew the antiquitie of thes names, and therfore I doo him wrong, which require he should haue browght the approbation of thes autors towching them: bothe he hath vndertaken to proue / that thes names are not against the word / and after he concludeth vpon thes restimonies / 1