A18080:975
The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
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Where he saith / thes were godly societies which Augustine speaketh off: I will not deny but that Jerome / and August. with others commend them / as it is not hard to show that discommend them: 1but that they were so (what show soever they bore) being instituted besides the warrant off the word / I utterly deny. Wherein I will refer my self to the treatises off divers learned men / which have handled that matter: that I be not compelled here to set upon this vermin / which the Ans. raiseth again from hell / to help the office off the Dean. it is enough to have showed / that beside the name / and institution without warrant of Gods word / they have nothing in common. As for the unspeakable profit he saith they bring unto the church, it is but his custom with riotous / and overrunning words / to supply the beggary of his reasons: and it is confuted in an other place. There remaineth one testimony 2pertaining to this question off the archbishop / taken out of Beza / whereby the Ans. would prove thes names good / and holy. Whereunto before I answer / to the end it may appear that the D. doth but hunt after words / contrary to mens constant practise / and manifest writings: I am compelled here to open / what Bezaes judgement is off them.
Where he saith / thes were godly societies which Augustine speaketh off: I will not denie but that Ierome / and August. with others commend them / as it is not hard to shew that discommend them: 1but that they were so (what shew soeuer they bore) being instituted besides the warrant off the word / I vtterly denie. Wherin I will refer my self to the treatises off diuers learned mē / which haue handled that matter: that I be not compelled here to set vpō this vermin / which the Ans. raiseth againe from hell / to help the office off the Deane. it is enough to haue shewed / that beside the name / and institution withowt warrant of Gods word / they haue nothing in commen. As for the vnspeakable profit he saith they bring vnto the church, it is but his coustome with riotous / and ouerrunning wordes / to supply the beggerie of his reasons: and yt is confuted in an other place. There remaineth one testimonie 2