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An answerAn aunsvvere
A crafty and Sophistical cavillation devised by M. Steven Gardine…A craftie and Sophisticall cauillation deuised by M. Steuen Gardine…
Confutation of book 3
Canterbury.
p. 130

AN ANSWER BY THE REVEREND FATHER in God Thomas Archbishop of Canterbury, Primate of all England and Metropolitan, Unto a crafty and Sophistical cavillation, devised by Stephen Gardiner Doctor of Law, late Bishop of Winchester against the true and godly doctrine of the most holy Sacrament, of the body and blood of our Saviour JESU CHRIST..Wherein is also, as occasion serveth, answered such places of the book of Doct. Richard Smith, as may seem any thing worthy the answering.Here is also the true Copy of the book written, and in open Court delivered, by D. Stephen Gardiner, not one word added or diminished, but faithfully in all points agreeing with the Original.Revised, and corrected by the said Archbishop at Oxford before his Martyrdom: Wherein he hath beautified Gardiners doings, with asmuch diligence as might be, by applying Notes in the Margin, and marks to the Doctors saying: which before wanted in the first Impression.Hereunto is prefixed the discourse of the said Archbishops life, and Martyrdom, briefly collected out of his History of the Acts and Monuments, and in the end is added certain Notes, wherein Gardiner varied, both from him self, and other Papists, gathered by the said Archbishop.Read with Judgement, and confer with diligence, laying aside all affection on either party, and thou shalt easily perceive (good Reader) how slender and weak the allegations and persuasions of the Papists are, wherewith they go about to defend their erroneous and false doctrine, and to impugn the truth. Anno. M. D. LI.AT LONDON Printed by John Day, dwelling over Aldersgate beneath S. Martins. Anno. 1580.Cum gratia & Privilegio, Regiae Maiestatis.AN AVNSVVERE BY THE REVEREND FATHER in God Thomas Archbyshop of Canterbury, Primate of all England and Metropolitane, Vnto a craftie and Sophisticall cauillation, deuised by Stephen Gardiner Doctour of Law, late Byshop of Winchester agaynst the true and godly doctrine of the most holy Sacrament, of the body and bloud of our Sauiour IESV CHRIST..Wherein is also, as occasion serueth, aunswered such places of the booke of Doct. Richard Smith, as may seeme any thyng worthy the aunsweryng.Here is also the true Copy of the booke written, and in open Court deliuered, by D. Stephen Gardiner, not one word added or diminished, but faythfully in all pointes agreeyng with the Originall.Reuised, and corrected by the sayd Archbyshop at Oxford before his Martyrdome: Wherein hee hath beautified Gardiners doynges, with asmuch diligence as might be, by applying Notes in the Margent, and markes to the Doctours saying: which before wanted in the first Impression.Hereunto is prefixed the discourse of the sayd Archbyshops lyfe, and Martyrdome, briefly collected out of his Hystory of the Actes and Monumentes, and in the end is added certaine Notes, wherein Gardiner varied, both from him selfe, and other Papistes, gathered by the sayd Archbyshop.Read with Iudgement, and conferre with diligence, laying aside all affection on either partie, and thou shalt easely perceaue (good Reader) how slender and weake the allegations and perswasions of the Papistes are, wherewith they goe about to defende their erroneous and false doctrine, and to impugne the truth. Anno. M. D. LI.AT LONDON Printed by Iohn Daye, dwellyng ouer Aldersgate beneath S. Martines. Anno. 1580.Cum gratia & Priuilegio, Regiae Maiestatis.Title page of An answer, London, 1580

A19563:863

An answerAn aunsvvere

An answer by the Reverend Father in God Thomas Archbishop of Canterbury, primate of all England and metropolitan, unto a crafty and sophistical cavillation, devised by Stephen Gardiner Doctor of Law, late Bishop of Winchester against the true and godly doctrine of the most holy sacrament, of the body and blood of our saviour Jesus Christ Wherein is also, as occasion serveth, answered such places of the book of Doct. Richard Smith, as may seem any thing worthy the answering. Here is also the true copy of the book written, and in open court delivered, by D. Stephen Gardiner ...An aunsvvere by the Reuerend Father in God Thomas Archbyshop of Canterbury, primate of all England and metropolitane, vnto a craftie and sophisticall cauillation, deuised by Stephen Gardiner Doctour of Law, late Byshop of Winchester agaynst the true and godly doctrine of the most holy sacrament, of the body and bloud of our sauiour Iesu Christ Wherein is also, as occasion serueth, aunswered such places of the booke of Doct. Richard Smith, as may seeme any thyng worthy the aunsweryng. Here is also the true copy of the booke written, and in open court deliuered, by D. Stephen Gardiner ...

Thomas Cranmer 1489–1556London: printed by John Daye, 1580London: printed by Iohn Daye, 1580

[28], 428, [4] p., [2] folded woodcut plates · 303k words · STC 5992 · ESTC S107277

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A crafty and Sophistical cavillation devised by M. Steven Gardine… › Confutation of book 3 › Canterbury.A craftie and Sophisticall cauillation deuised by M. Steuen Gardine… › Confutation of book 3 › Canterbury.

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:860p. 130§5

Eran. What callest thou that which is offered, before the invocation of the priest?

Eran. What callest thou that which is offered, before the inuocation of the priest?

:861p. 130§5

Orth. We must not speak plainly, for it is like that some be present, which have not professed Christ.

Orth. We must not speake playnly, for it is like that some be present, which haue not professed Christ.

:862p. 130§5

Eran. Answer covertly.

Eran. Answer couertly.

:863p. 130§5

Orth. It is a nourishment made of seeds that be like.

Orth. It is a nourishment made of sedes that be like.

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Title as printed: An answer by the Reverend Father in God Thomas Archbishop of Canterbury, primate of all England and metropolitan, unto a crafty and sophistical cavillation, devised by Stephen Gardiner Doctor of Law, late Bishop of Winchester against the true and godly doctrine of the most holy sacrament, of the body and blood of our saviour Jesus Christ Wherein is also, as occasion serveth, answered such places of the book of Doct. Richard Smith, as may seem any thing worthy the answering. Here is also the true copy of the book written, and in open court delivered, by D. Stephen Gardiner ...An aunsvvere by the Reuerend Father in God Thomas Archbyshop of Canterbury, primate of all England and metropolitane, vnto a craftie and sophisticall cauillation, deuised by Stephen Gardiner Doctour of Law, late Byshop of Winchester agaynst the true and godly doctrine of the most holy sacrament, of the body and bloud of our sauiour Iesu Christ Wherein is also, as occasion serueth, aunswered such places of the booke of Doct. Richard Smith, as may seeme any thyng worthy the aunsweryng. Here is also the true copy of the booke written, and in open court deliuered, by D. Stephen Gardiner ...
Author: Thomas Cranmer 1489–1556
Place: London
Printer: John DayeIohn Daye
Year: 1580
Size: [28], 428, [4] p., [2] folded woodcut plates
Words: 302,517
Catalogue: STC 5992 · ESTC S107277
Text: EEBO-TCP A19563

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:864p. 130§5

Eran. Than how call we the other sign?

Eran. Than how call we the other signe?

:865p. 130§5

Orth. It is also a common name that signifieth a kind of drink.

Orth. It is also a common name that signifieth a kind of drinke.

:866p. 130§5

Eran. But how doest thou call them after the sanctification.

:867p. 130§5

Orth. The body of Christ, and the blood of Christ.

Orth. The body of Christ, and the bloud of Christ.

:868p. 130§5

Eran. And doest thou believe that thou art made partaker of Christs body and blood?

Eran. And doest thou beleue that thou art made partaker of Christes body and bloud?

:869p. 130§5

Orth. I believe so.

Orth. I beleue so.

:870p. 130–131§5

Eran. Therefore as the tokens of Gods body and blood, be other things before ⟨p. 131⟩the priests, invocation, but after the invocation they be changed, and be other things: so also the body of Christ after his assumption, is changed into his divine substance.

Eran. Therfore as the tokens of Gods body and bloud, be other thinges before ⟨p. 131⟩the priestes, inuocation, but after the inuocation they be chaunged, and be other things: so also the body of Christ after his assumption, is chaunged into his deuine substaunce.

:871p. 131§5

Ortho. Thou art taken with thine own net. For the sacramental signs go not from their own nature after the sanctification, but continue in their former substance, form and figure, and may be seen and touched as well as before, yet in our minds we do consider, what they be made, and do repute and esteem them and have them in reverence, according to the same things that they be taken for. Therefore con pare their images to the pattern, and thou shalt see them like. For figure must be like to the thing it self. For Christs body hath his former fashion, figure, and bigness, and to speak at one word, the same substance of his body: but after his resurrection, it was made immortal, and of such power, that no corruption nor death could come unto it: and it was exalted unto that dignity, that it was set at the right hand of the father, and honoured of all creatures, as the body of him that is the Lord of nature.

Ortho. Thou art taken with thine owne nette. For the sacramentall signes go not from their owne nature after the sanctification, but continue in their former substance, forme and figure, and may be seene and touched as well as before, yet in our mindes we do consider, what they be made, and do repute and esteme them and haue them in reuerence, according to the same thinges that they be taken for. Therfore cō pare their images to the paterne, and thou shalt see them like. For figure must be like to the thing it selfe. For Christes body hath his former fashion, figure, and bignesse, and to speake at one word, the same substance of his body: but after his resurrection, it was made immortall, and of such power, that no corruption nor death could come vnto it: and it was exalted vnto that dignity, that it was sette at the right hand of the father, and honoured of all creatures, as the body of him that is the Lord of nature.

:872p. 131§5

Eran. But the sacramental token changeth his former name, for it is no more called as it was before, but is called Christs body. Therefore must his body after his ascension be called God, and not a body.

Eran. But the sacramentall token chaungeth his former name, for it is no more called as it was before, but is called Christes body. Therfore must his body after his ascention be called God, and not a body.

:873p. 131§5

Orth. Thou seemest to me ignorant: for it is not called his body only but also the bread of life, as the Lord called it. So the body of Christ we call a godly body, a body that giveth life, Gods body, the Lords body, our masters body, name ning that it is not a common body, as other mens bodies be, but that it is the body of our Lord Jesus Christ, both God and man.

Orth. Thou semest to me ignorant: for it is not called his body onely but also the bread of lyfe, as the Lord called it. So the body of Christ we call a godly body, a body that giueth life, Gods body, the Lordes body, our masters body, name ning that it is not a common body, as other mennes bodies be, but that it is the body of our Lord Iesu Christ, both God and man.

:874p. 131§5

This have I rehearsed of the great clerk and holy bishop Theodoretus, whom some of the Papists perceiving to make so plainly against them, have defamed, saying that he was infected with the error of Nestorius.

This haue I rehersed of the great clerke and holy byshop Theodoretus, whom some of the Papists perceiuing to make so playnly agaynst them, haue defamed, saying that he was infected with the errour of Nestorius.

:875p. 131§5

Here the Papists show their old accustomed nature and condition which is even in a manifest matter, rather to lie without shame, than to give place unto the truth, and confess their own error. And although his adversaries falsely bruited such a fame against him, when he was yet a live, nevertheless he was purged thereof by the whole Council of Calcedon, about a leaven hundred years ago.

Here the Papistes shewe their old accustomed nature and condition which is euen in a manifest matter, rather to lie without shame, than to giue place vnto the truth, and confesse their owne errour. And although his aduersaries falsely bruted such a fame agaynst him, whan he was yet a liue, neuerthelesse he was purged therof by the whole Councell of Calcedon, about a leuen hundred yeares agoe.

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Thomas Cranmer 1489–1556

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Archbishop of Canterbury; chief compiler of the Book of Common Prayer.

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