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An answerAn aunsvvere
An answer by the Reverend Father in God Thomas Archbishop of Canterbury, primate of all England and metropolitan, unto a crafty and sophistical cavillation, devised by Stephen Gardiner Doctor of Law, late Bishop of Winchester against the true and godly doctrine of the most holy sacrament, of the body and blood of our saviour Jesus Christ Wherein is also, as occasion serveth, answered such places of the book of Doct. Richard Smith, as may seem any thing worthy the answering. Here is also the true copy of the book written, and in open court delivered, by D. Stephen Gardiner ...An aunsvvere by the Reuerend Father in God Thomas Archbyshop of Canterbury, primate of all England and metropolitane, vnto a craftie and sophisticall cauillation, deuised by Stephen Gardiner Doctour of Law, late Byshop of Winchester agaynst the true and godly doctrine of the most holy sacrament, of the body and bloud of our sauiour Iesu Christ Wherein is also, as occasion serueth, aunswered such places of the booke of Doct. Richard Smith, as may seeme any thyng worthy the aunsweryng. Here is also the true copy of the booke written, and in open court deliuered, by D. Stephen Gardiner ...
London: printed by John Daye, 1580London: printed by Iohn Daye, 1580
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The author bringeth in Theodoret a greek,1 whom to discuss particularly, were long & tedious: one notable place there is in him, which toucheth the point of the matter, which place Peter Martyr allegeth in greek, and then translateth it into Latin, not exactly as other have done to the truth, but as he hath done, I will write in here. And then will I write the same translated into english by one that hath translated Peter Martyrs book: and then will I add the translation of this author, and finally the very truth of the Latin, as I will abide by, and join an issue with this author in it, whereby thou reader shalt perceive with what sincerity things be handled.
The author bringeth in Theodoret a greek,1 whom to discusse particularly, wer lōg & tedious: one notable place there is in him, which toucheth the poynt of the mater, which place Peter Marter alleageth in greek, and then translateth it into Latin, not exactly as other haue done to the truth, but as he hath done, I will write in here. And then will I wryte the same translated into english by one yt hath translated Peter Marters booke: and then will I adde the translation of this author, and finally the very truth of the Latine, as I will abide by, and ioyn an issue with this author in it, wherby thou reader shalt perceaue with what sinceritie thinges be handled.
- 1Theodoretus.
Peter Martyr hath of Theodoret this in Latin,1 which the same Theodoret in a disputation with an Heretic maketh the catholic man to say. Captus es ijs quae tetenderas retibus. Neque enim post sancti ficationem, mistica simbola illa propria sua natura egrediuntur, manent enim in priori sua substantia, & figura, & specie, adeoque & videntur, & palpantur, quemadmodum & antea. Intelliguntur autem quae facta sunt, & creduntur, & adorantur tanquam ea existentia, quae creduntur. He that translateth Peter Martyr in english, doth express these words thus. Lo thou art new caught in the same net which thou haddest set to catch me in. For those same mystical signs do not depart away out of their own proper nature after the hallowing of them. For they remain still in their former substance, and their former shape, and their former kind, and are even as well seen and felt, as they were afore. But the things that are done, are understanded, and are believed, and are worshipped, even as though they were in very deed the things that are believed. This is the common translation into English of Peter Martyrs book translated, which this author doth translate after his fashion, thus. Thou art taken with thine own net,, for the sacramental signs go not from their own nature after the sanctification, but continue in their former substance, form and figure, and be seen, and touched as well as before. Yet in our minds we do consider what they be made, and do repute and esteem them, and have them in reverence according to the same things, that they be taken for. Thus is the translation of this author. Mine English of this latin is thus.