A19884:652
An apologetical reply to a book called an answer to the unjust complaint of…An apologeticall reply to a booke called an ansvver to the unjust complaint of…
An apologetical reply to a book called an answer to the unjust complaint of VV.B. Also an answer to Mr. I.D. touching his report of some passages. His allegation of Scriptures against the baptising of some kind of infants. His protestation about the publishing of his writings. By John Davenport BD.An apologeticall reply to a booke called an ansvver to the unjust complaint of VV.B. Also an answer to Mr. I.D. touching his report of some passages. His allegation of Scriptures against the baptising of some kind of infants. His protestation about the publishing of his wrightings. By Iohn Davenporte BD.
Rotterdam: printed by Isaac van Waesberghe, 1636Rotterdam: printed by Isaack van Waesberghe, 1636
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4. When they add, that the judgment of the Classis is to be sought, in case of necessity, so far as it may be done conveniently, they suppose truly, that the case may be such, as it cannot be done conveniently, or at all done, when a Minister is put upon it suddenly. For even whilst he is in the pulpit, the child is brought, many times: where shall he find the Classis, at such a time, when he can not have time so much as to advise with the Elders that sit before him, without making some public disturbance? which very consideration serveth to declare the reasonableness of my demand for private satisfaction to be given me before hand, to prevent all public disturbance.
4. When they add, that the judgment of the Classis is to be saught, in case of necessity, so farr as it may be done conveniently, they suppose truely, that the case may be such, as it cannot be done conveniently, or at all done, when a Minister is put upon it suddenly. For even whilest he is in the pulpit, the child is brought, many times: where shall he find the Classis, at such a time, when he can not have time so much as to advise with the Elders that sit before him, without making some publick disturbance? which very consideration serveth to declare the reasonablenes of my demand for private satisfaction to be given me before hand, to prevent all publick disturbance.
5. This seeming concession is merely seeming, and it is contradictory to it self. For 1, if there are cases, wherein the judgment of the Elders will be requisite and necessary; why do they hinder me from the use of means to find out those causes, when they bind me to baptise those that are brought, though I have no knowledge of them, by private conference, or otherwise? 2. If that way of having some precedent private examination of the parents & sureties in Christian Religion be so greatly approved by them, that they do judge that this fore said examination be ordained, so far as may stand with the edification of the English Church: why do they afterwards add, that if the parents or sureties shall refuse to come, & undergo this examination, or those that do come, shall not seem, for that time, to satisfy the brethren &c. yet the infant &c. shall not therefore be excluded from baptism, or deprived thereof. This is that which the Satire could not understand, that a man should warm his hands and cool his pottage with the same blast of breath, nor can I see how, by the same men, in the same writing,