A30189:136
An answer to two treatises of Mr. John Can, the leader of the English…An answer to two treatises of Mr. Iohn Can, the leader of the English…
An answer to two treatises of Mr. John Can, the leader of the English Brownists in Amsterdam the former called, A necessity of separation from the Church of England, proved by the Nonconformists principles : the other, A stay against straying : wherein in opposition to M. John Robinson, he undertakes to prove the unlawfulness of hearing the ministers of the Church of England ... / by the late learned, laborious and faithful servant of Jesus Christ, John Ball.An answer to two treatises of Mr. Iohn Can, the leader of the English Brownists in Amsterdam the former called, A necessitie of separation from the Church of England, proved by the Nonconformists principles : the other, A stay against straying : wherein in opposition to M. Iohn Robinson, he undertakes to prove the unlawfulnesse of hearing the ministers of the Church of England ... / by the late learned, laborious and faithfull servant of Jesus Christ, John Ball.
London: printed by R.B., 1642
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Election therefore was not ever made by the particular congregation, where the Pastor or Teacher was to administer, but other Churches, and specially the Guides, by common consent were called to assist the Church in that weighty business. And this the Non-conformists judge not only lawful, but meet, expedient, necessary in some cases. And therefore in many particulars, they except against the proposition, as none of theirs, and against your confident assertion, that you were sure the propositions were both theirs, when as it is neither found in them, nor in any writer, ancient or modern, nor in the holy Scriptures.
Election therefore was not ever made by the particular congregation, where the Pastor or Teacher was to administer, but other Churches, and specially the Guides, by common consent were called to assist the Church in that weighty businesse. And this the Non-conformists judge not only lawfull, but meet, expedient, necessary in some cases. And therefore in many particulars, they except against the proposition, as none of theirs, and against your confident assertion, that you were sure the propositions were both theirs, when as it is neither found in them, nor in any writer, ancient or moderne, nor in the holy Scriptures.
And when you peruse the testimonies alleged, 1be judge your self, whether you did not grossly mistake, or abuse your Reader, when you cite the Rhemists, as if they pleaded for the Parochial election of a Pastor, as only lawful.
And when you peruse the testimonies alledged, 1be judge your selfe, whether you did not grossely mistake, or abuse your Reader, when you cite the Rhemists, as if they pleaded for the Parochial election of a Pastour, as onely lawfull.