A30189:449
An answer to two treatises of Mr. John Can, the leader of the English…An answer to two treatises of Mr. Iohn Can, the leader of the English…
An answer to two treatises of Mr. John Can, the leader of the English Brownists in Amsterdam the former called, A necessity of separation from the Church of England, proved by the Nonconformists principles : the other, A stay against straying : wherein in opposition to M. John Robinson, he undertakes to prove the unlawfulness of hearing the ministers of the Church of England ... / by the late learned, laborious and faithful servant of Jesus Christ, John Ball.An answer to two treatises of Mr. Iohn Can, the leader of the English Brownists in Amsterdam the former called, A necessitie of separation from the Church of England, proved by the Nonconformists principles : the other, A stay against straying : wherein in opposition to M. Iohn Robinson, he undertakes to prove the unlawfulnesse of hearing the ministers of the Church of England ... / by the late learned, laborious and faithfull servant of Jesus Christ, John Ball.
London: printed by R.B., 1642
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Thus you go on in four leaves or thereabouts to confirm your proposition, Answer. 1and yet it may be questioned, whether you do confirm or explain every particular contained therein. For if it be demanded what it is to be as unlike to Idolaters as much as may be, and how that is proved to be necessary, either by the commandment of God, or practice of the godly, without some fit or due limitation, which is not added, I suppose you will be to seek, much less can it be concluded out of this discourse. But let us hear your Assumption.
Thus you goe on in foure leaves or thereabouts to confirme your proposition, Answer. 1and yet it may be questioned, whether you doe confirme or explaine every particular conteined therein. For if it be demanded what it is to be as unlike to Idolaters as much as may be, and how that is proved to be necessary, either by the commandement of God, or practice of the godly, without some fit or due limitation, which is not added, I suppose you will be to seeke, much lesse can it be concluded out of this discourse. But let us heare your Assumption.
- 1Ibid. pag. 84. to 92.
But the worship of the English-Church-Service-Book hath no warrant by Gods word, 1but it is a devised, false, and idolatrous worship. If we take a strict view of that ministry, worship, and government, which they left at Dan and Bethel, it will appear evidently, that the same was not more false idolatrous and unlawful, 2than the present ministry, worship and government of the English Assemblies, is by the Non-conformists affirmed to be. And because none may think, that I speak more than can be proved, I will therefore here lay down an apology or pretext, which an idolatrous Israelite might frame in the defence of the Kings Religion,