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A sober reply to the sober answer of Reverend Mr. Cawdrey, to A serious…
A sober reply to the sober answer of Reverend Mr. Cawdrey, to A serious question propounded viz. whether the ministers of England are bound by the word of God to baptise the children of all such parents, which say they believe in Jesus Christ, but are grossly ignorant, scandalous in their conversations, scoffers at godliness, and refuse to submit to church discipline ... : also, the question of Reverend Mr. Hooker concerning the baptism of infants : with a post-script to Reverend Mr. Blake / by G.I. Firmin ...A sober reply to the sober answer of Reverend Mr. Cawdrey, to A serious question propounded viz. whether the ministers of England are bound by the word of God to baptise the children of all such parents, which say they believe in Jesus Christ, but are grosly ignorant, scandalous in their conversations, scoffers at godliness, and refuse to submit to church dicipline ... : also, the question of Reverend Mr. Hooker concerning the baptisme of infants : with a post-script to Reverend Mr. Blake / by G.I. Firmin ...
London: printed by J.G., 1653
A SOBER REPLY TO A SOBER ANSWER, &c.A SOBER REPLY TO A SOBER ANSVVER, &c.
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Else I cannot see how he who is cast out of a particular Church, can be cast out of the Catholic Church:1 if a man be first a Member of a particular Church, and by virtue of this comes to have communion with all other Churches, this latter depending on the former, then the reason is clear; cast him out of a particular Church you cut him off from all Communion with others.
Else I cannot see how he who is cast out of a particular Church, can be cast out of the Catholique Church:1 if a man be first a Member of a particular Church, and by vertue of this comes to have communion with all other Churches, this latter depending on the former, then the reason is cleare; cast him out of a particular Church you cut him off from all Communion with others.
- 1Though excommunicated unjustly, yet till case be heard, Communion denied. Concil. Sa••ll. Can. 17.Though excommunicated unjustly, yet till case be heard, Communion denyed. Concil. Sa••ll. Can. 17.
But if a man be first a Member of the Catholic Church, and his being a Member of this particular Church, depends upon that, then I see no reasons for though you have cast him out of your particular Church which is second, yet his membership to the Catholic Church, which is first and independent upon this, still remains; and you do in excommunication but cast him into, that state he was in before he joined to you; so that still he is a Member of the Catholic Church, and may demand ordinances elsewhere. Other Churches deny not communion before the particular doth of which he is a Member, then they follow: hence their Act depends on this: if depend, then not first.