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A sober reply to the sober answer of Reverend Mr. Cawdrey, to A serious…
A sober reply to the sober answer of Reverend Mr. Cawdrey, to A serious question propounded viz. whether the ministers of England are bound by the word of God to baptise the children of all such parents, which say they believe in Jesus Christ, but are grossly ignorant, scandalous in their conversations, scoffers at godliness, and refuse to submit to church discipline ... : also, the question of Reverend Mr. Hooker concerning the baptism of infants : with a post-script to Reverend Mr. Blake / by G.I. Firmin ...A sober reply to the sober answer of Reverend Mr. Cawdrey, to A serious question propounded viz. whether the ministers of England are bound by the word of God to baptise the children of all such parents, which say they believe in Jesus Christ, but are grosly ignorant, scandalous in their conversations, scoffers at godliness, and refuse to submit to church dicipline ... : also, the question of Reverend Mr. Hooker concerning the baptisme of infants : with a post-script to Reverend Mr. Blake / by G.I. Firmin ...
London: printed by J.G., 1653
A SOBER REPLY TO A SOBER ANSWER, &c.A SOBER REPLY TO A SOBER ANSVVER, &c.
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You are a passage in my Boistle which is this [Some Ministers scorn the notion that an explic•ie Covenant is the form of a Church visible, and some professors are so rigid for it that without it, they deny all Churches] of the latter sort is Mr. Hooker, say you; Sir, you wrong him exceedingly, and I wonder a man of your grace should do thus when he hath so expressly declared his mind to the contrary; to your knowledge the next words you mention show as much, and in his Epistle p. 11. he speaks as plainly. But of him anon.
You are a passage in my Boistle which is this [Some Ministers scorne the notion that an explic•ie Covenant is the forme of a Church visible, and some professours are so rigid for it that without it, they deny all Churches] of the latter sort is Mr. Hooker, say you; Sir, you wrong him exceedingly, and I wonder a man of your grace should doe thus when he hath so expresly declared his minde to the concrary; to your knowledge the next words you mention shew as much, and in his Epistle p. 11. he speaks as plainesy. But of him anon.
That passage shall clear me from making no Churches but where there is an explicit Covenant; I saw in some Congregations where there were both visible and real Saints (as we may judge) when the Lords Supper was to be administered, some professors would not join in the Ordinance for want of that (so far as I could learn) supposing they were not in a right Church-way. Now this I could not approve of since there were so many Christians to depart from the Ordinance upon such a ground.
That passage shall cleare me from making no Churches but where there is an explicite Covenant; I saw in some Congregations where there were both visible and reall Saints (as we may judge) when the Lords Supper was to be administred, some professours would not joyne in the Ordinance for want of that (so farre as I could learne) supposing they were not in a right Church-way. Now this I could not approve of since there were so many Christians to depart from the Ordinance upon such a ground.