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A sober reply to the sober answer of Reverend Mr. Cawdrey, to A serious…
A sober reply to the sober answer of Reverend Mr. Cawdrey, to A serious question propounded viz. whether the ministers of England are bound by the word of God to baptise the children of all such parents, which say they believe in Jesus Christ, but are grossly ignorant, scandalous in their conversations, scoffers at godliness, and refuse to submit to church discipline ... : also, the question of Reverend Mr. Hooker concerning the baptism of infants : with a post-script to Reverend Mr. Blake / by G.I. Firmin ...A sober reply to the sober answer of Reverend Mr. Cawdrey, to A serious question propounded viz. whether the ministers of England are bound by the word of God to baptise the children of all such parents, which say they believe in Jesus Christ, but are grosly ignorant, scandalous in their conversations, scoffers at godliness, and refuse to submit to church dicipline ... : also, the question of Reverend Mr. Hooker concerning the baptisme of infants : with a post-script to Reverend Mr. Blake / by G.I. Firmin ...
London: printed by J.G., 1653
A SOBER REPLY TO A SOBER ANSWER, &c.A SOBER REPLY TO A SOBER ANSVVER, &c.
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[…] if any man hath a mind to be a surety for other folks children let him, per me lices. I think those who have children of their own, and know what is to educate them, will not be forward to be sureties for others: I doubt many men if they examine how they have discharged their suretyship ⟨p. 43⟩heretofore, have cause to be humbled, for I think most never regarded it; and how to dischargest when they have them not under their charge, and remove so commonly as we do, I know not.
〈…〉 if any man hath a minde to be a surety for other folkes children let him, per me lices. I thinke those who have children of their owne, and know what is to educate them, will not be forward to be sureties for others: I doubt many men if they examine how they have discharged their suretiship ⟨p. 43⟩heretoforē, have cause to be humbled, for I thinke most never regarded it; and how to discharge•t when they have them not under their charge, and remove so commonly as we do, I know not.
But you with tell me of the stream of Divines are for it; there is a little Rivules that is not acknowledged by Gerhard, loc. co. To. 4. p. 583. he quotes Galvin, Beza, Bucanus; and for Beza, Walaeus doth acknowledge, tutius judicat ut priuserudiantur. Hunnius also, Rivet, S•ith is against it.1
- 1To. 1. p. 492. on Gen. 17. p. 343. de bapt.