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A sober reply to the sober answer of Reverend Mr. Cawdrey, to A serious…
A sober reply to the sober answer of Reverend Mr. Cawdrey, to A serious question propounded viz. whether the ministers of England are bound by the word of God to baptise the children of all such parents, which say they believe in Jesus Christ, but are grossly ignorant, scandalous in their conversations, scoffers at godliness, and refuse to submit to church discipline ... : also, the question of Reverend Mr. Hooker concerning the baptism of infants : with a post-script to Reverend Mr. Blake / by G.I. Firmin ...A sober reply to the sober answer of Reverend Mr. Cawdrey, to A serious question propounded viz. whether the ministers of England are bound by the word of God to baptise the children of all such parents, which say they believe in Jesus Christ, but are grosly ignorant, scandalous in their conversations, scoffers at godliness, and refuse to submit to church dicipline ... : also, the question of Reverend Mr. Hooker concerning the baptisme of infants : with a post-script to Reverend Mr. Blake / by G.I. Firmin ...
London: printed by J.G., 1653
A SOBER REPLY TO A SOBER ANSWER, &c.A SOBER REPLY TO A SOBER ANSVVER, &c.
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To this therefore I will answer further.
1. If you and ten Ministers more, or as many as you please, will combine §1together, and set up a Classical form of Government [and then you conceive you have power] you may if you will, who hinders you? I know of no power that oppose you. Therefore this is not a sufficient P•••.
1. If you and ten Ministers more, or as many as you please, will combine §1together, and set up a Classi••ll forme of Government [and then you conceive you have power] you may if you will, who hinders you? I know of no power that oppose you. Therefore this is not a sufficient P•••.
2. But is […] your meaning (in good earnest) to deny to a particular §2Church, a power to reform its own Members (as you seem to express) in that manner I have set down? I hope we shall find divers Classical Divines of another Opinion: I pray what is your meaning, when you say; As for Reverend and Learned Whitaker, whose Testimony he makes use of P. 52. •as he grants but what w••••, 1that every particular Church hath a power own […] own Members, what power you mean is plain by the D•scours of Mr. Hookers and learned Whitaker M. Cawdrey writes himself, Pastor of the Church at Billing; Now I pray give me a reason why so godly and able a Pastor with his Church should not have power over his own Members, unless he will contradict himself (as he saith, I do) but I hope you do not mean, there is no particular Church, but a Classical Church, for that opposeth what before you have said of your self: our […] runs 14 miles in length, and 20 several Parishes in it, to make all […] o particular Church, is very hard, but if the Church at Billing have power over its own members, why may not the Church at Shalford have the same power?