We reply,1 first, if the Apostle had mentioned Rulers or Governors alone, then might we have indeed guessed, that he meant a general kind only, and no particular Species: But since he hath enumerate so many Species, as Apostles, Prophets, Teachers, gifts of miracles, gifts of tongues, &c. Surely they did either most ignorantly, or most maliciously err who tell us, that the Apostle putteth a Genus in the midst of so many Species. Secondly, the Apostle speaketh only of Ecclesiastical Officers, God hath set some in the Church, &c. What meant Whitgift to extend his words to the civill Magistrate. T. C. answered him, that he could not distinguish betwixt the Church and Common-wealth, and so betwixt ⟨p. 42⟩the Church Officers, and the Officers of the Common-wealth. He replied, that he could not put any such difference betwixt them, that the one may not be comprehended under the Apostles word, as well as the other. For I utterly renounce, saith he, that distinction invented by Papists, and maintained by you, which is, that Christian Magistrates govern not in the respect they be Christians but in the respect they be men; and that they govern Christians, not in that they be Christians, but in that they be men: which is to give no more authority to the Christian Magistrate in the Church of Christ, then to the great Turk. Let our opposites here go by the ears among themselves: for M. Jo. Wemys holdeth,2 that all Kings have alike jurisdiction in the Church, Infidels as well as Christian Kings. We hold that Christian Magistrates govern their subjects, neither as Christians, nor as men, but as Magistrates; and they govern Christian subjects as Christian Magistrates. In like manner, Christians are governed by Magistrates, neither as they are Christians, nor as they are men, but as they are subjects, and they are governed by Christian Magistrates, as they are Christian subjects. And we all maintain, that a Christian Magistrate hath great authority over Christian subjects, in things pertaining to the conservation ⟨p. 43⟩and purgation of religion, which the great Turk, nor no Infidel Magistrate hath, or can have, except he become Christian. But what do I digressing after the impertinences of a roving disputer? for what of all this?
We reply,1 first, if the Apostle had mentioned Rulers or Governours alone, then might we have indeed guessed, that hee meant a generall kinde onely, and no particular Species: But since he hath enumerate so many Species, as Apostles, Prophets, Teachers, gifts of miracles, gifts of tongues, &c. Surely they did either most ignorantly, or most maliciously erre who tell us, that the Apostle putteth a Genus in the midst of so many Species. Secondly, the Apostle speaketh onely of Ecclesiasticall Officers, God hath set some in the Church, &c. What meant Whitgift to extend his words to the civill Magistrate. T. C. answered him, that hee could not distinguish betwixt the Church and Common-wealh, and so betwixt ⟨p. 42⟩the Church Officers, and the Officers of the Common-wealth. He replied, that he could not put any such difference betwixt them, that the one may not be comprehended under the Apostles word, as well as the other. For I utterly renounce, saith he, that distinction invented by Papists, and maintained by you, which is, that Christian Magistrates governe not in the respect they be Christians but in the respect they be men; and that they governe Christians, not in that they bee Christians, but in that they bee men: which is to give no more authority to the Christian Magistrate in the Church of Christ, then to the great Turke. Let our opposites here goe by the eares among themselves: for M. Io. Wemys holdeth,2 that all Kings have alike jurisdiction in the Church, Infidels as wel as Christian Kings. We hold that Christian Magistrates governe their subjects, neither as Christians, nor as men, but as Magistrates; and they governe Christian subjects as Christian Magistrates. In like manner, Christians are governed by Magistrates, neither as they are Christians, nor as they are men, but as they are subjects, and they are governed by Christian Magistrates, as they are Christian subjects. And we all maintaine, that a Christian Magistrate hath great authority over Christian subjects, in things pertaining to the conservation ⟨p. 43⟩and purgation of religion, which the great Turke, nor no Infidell Magistrate hath, or can have, except hee become Christian. But what doe I digressing after the impertinencies of a roving disputer? for what of all this?
- 1Temporis illius conditiono• de qu buslibet praefectis Paulum loqui oftendit quia tuncnulli erant pii Magistratus: sed de Senioribus qui morum erant Censores saith Calvin upon Rom. 12.8.Temporis illius conditiono• de qu buslibet praefectis Paulum loqui oftendit quia tuncnulli erant pii Magistratus: sed de Senioribus qui morum erant Censores saith Calvine upon Rom. 12.8.
- 2De Reg. prim. p. 123.
