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A late dialogue betwixt a civilian and a divine concerning the present condition of…
A late dialogue betwixt a civilian and a divine concerning the present condition of the Church of England in which, among other particulars, these following are especially spoken of ...
London: printed for Robert Bostock, 1644
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that he healeth not the breaches of the land, because they heal not the breach of the daughter of Zion: that he makes the success of the war to halt, because they halt betwixt two, or rather many opinions.
that hee healeth not the breaches of the land, because they heal not the breach of the daughter of Sion: that hee makes the successe of the warre to halt, because they halt betwixt two, or rather many opinions.
Civilian. I do fully agree with you if all this be understood of the fundamentals of Faith and Religion, and the power of godliness. But if so be, you mean of the government and discipline of the Church, then you make Mountains of mole-hills, and put Hercules sh•e upon an infants foot, whiles you hold that God is not pleased, and that the Kingdom cannot be blessed, unless the order and discipline of the Church be established so and so as you would have it. I do not acknowledge either the Episcopal way, or the Presbyterial, or the Congregational, to be Jure divino, But that all things of that kind are left in such an indifferency, that they may be moulded and fashioned diversly according to the different forms and constitutions of Common-wealths, and altered as much and as often, as each State shall find most convenient for it self. If you can convince me that I am in an error, go to, let me hear your reasons.
Civilian. I doe fully agree with you if all this be understood of the fundamentals of Faith and Religion, and the power of godlinesse. But if so be, you meane of the government and discipline of the Church, then you make Mountaines of mole-hills, and put Hercules sh•e upon an infants foot, whiles you hold that God is not pleased, and that the Kingdome cannot be blessed, unlesse the order and discipline of the Church bee established so and so as you would have it. I doe not acknowledge either the Episcopall way, or the Presbiteriall, or the C•ngregationall, to be Iure divino, But that all things of that kind are left in such an indifferency, that they may bee moulded and fashioned diversly according to the different formes and constitutions of Common-wealths, and altered as much and as often, as each State shall find most convenient for it selfe. If you can convince me that I am in an error, go to, let me heare your reasons.