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A peaceable and temperate plea for Pauls presbytery in Scotland, or, A modest and…A peaceable and temperate plea for Pauls presbyterie in Scotland, or, A modest and…
A peaceable and temperate plea for Pauls presbytery in Scotland, or, A modest and brotherly dispute of the government of the Church of Scotland wherein our discipline is demonstrated to be the true apostolic way of divine truth, and the arguments on the contrary are friendly dissolved, the grounds of separation and the independency [sic] of particular congregations, in defence of ecclesiastical presbyteries, synods, and assemblies, are examined and tried / by Samuel Rutherfurd ...A peaceable and temperate plea for Pauls presbyterie in Scotland, or, A modest and brotherly dispute of the government of the Church of Scotland wherein our discipline is demonstrated to be the true apostolick way of divine truth, and the arguments on the contrary are friendly dissolved, the grounds of separation and the indepencie [sic] of particular congregations, in defence of ecclesiasticall presbyteries, synods, and assemblies, are examined and tryed / by Samuell Rutherfurd ...
London: printed for John Bartlet, 1642London: printed for Iohn Bartlet, 1642
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Answ. I will first answer these reasons, and withal show how the people had hand in excommunication, and might prove that there was a Presbytery of many Pastors at Corinth, and not a single Congregation of one Pastor, and some few Elders and believers, who did excommunicate. I retort these Arguments: These with whom the fornicator did converse, and so leavened them, these who were pus•ed up, and sorrowed not at the mans fall, and at his not being cut off by excommunication, these were judicially to excommunicate with the Elders: But the fornicator conversed amongst believing women and children, and did leaven them, believing women and children were puffed up and sorrowed not, Ergo, Believing women and children did judicially excommunicate, but the conclusion is foul, and against the Argumentators, Ergo, so must some of the premisses be foul and false, but the assumption is most true; therefore their major proposition must be false; therefore they must first acknowledge a representative Church with us, and that men only did judicially ⟨p. 233⟩excommunicate, and not all the faithful, except they make women ordinary Judges usurping the authority over men. Then the number of these who were puffed up, and sorrowed not at his fall, &c. must be more then the number of the persons who should judicially excommunicate.
Answ. I will first answer these reasons, and withall shew how the people had hand in excommunication, and might prove that there was a Presbytery of many Pastors at Corinth, and not a single Congregation of one Pastor, and some few Elders and beleevers, who did excommunicate. I retort these Arguments: These with whom the fornicator did converse, and so leavened them, these who were pus•ed up, and sorrowed not at the mans fall, and at his not being cut off by excommunication, these were judicially to excommunicate with the Elders: But the fornicator conversed amongst beleeving women and children, and did leaven them, beleeving women and children were puffed up and sorrowed not, Ergo, Beleeving women and children did judicially excommunicate, but the conclusion is foule, and against the Argumentators, Ergo, so must some of the premisses be foule and false, but the assumption is most true; therefore their major proposition must be false; therfore they must first acknowledge a representative Church with us, and that men onely did judicially ⟨p. 233⟩