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A peaceable and temperate plea for Pauls presbytery in Scotland, or, A modest and…A peaceable and temperate plea for Pauls presbyterie in Scotland, or, A modest and…
A peaceable and temperate plea for Pauls presbytery in Scotland, or, A modest and brotherly dispute of the government of the Church of Scotland wherein our discipline is demonstrated to be the true apostolic way of divine truth, and the arguments on the contrary are friendly dissolved, the grounds of separation and the independency [sic] of particular congregations, in defence of ecclesiastical presbyteries, synods, and assemblies, are examined and tried / by Samuel Rutherfurd ...A peaceable and temperate plea for Pauls presbyterie in Scotland, or, A modest and brotherly dispute of the government of the Church of Scotland wherein our discipline is demonstrated to be the true apostolick way of divine truth, and the arguments on the contrary are friendly dissolved, the grounds of separation and the indepencie [sic] of particular congregations, in defence of ecclesiasticall presbyteries, synods, and assemblies, are examined and tryed / by Samuell Rutherfurd ...
London: printed for John Bartlet, 1642London: printed for Iohn Bartlet, 1642
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Answ. That which concerneth all, one and the same way and the manner, should be handled by all. That which concerneth all, divers and sundry manner of ways should be handled by all divers manner of ways: If ten men be owners of a ship, nine of them cannot sell the ship without the consent of the tenth owner: If all both Elders or Ministers, and the whole company of believers had one and the same power of the keys, we see not but all, Ministers and people should have a like hand in voicing and concluding; nor do I well see, that if the keys be given to all believers, upon our brethren's former ground, because they are the body and Spouse of Christ, how women and believing children can be excluded from joint-governing and use of the keys (except in the act of public teaching, 1 Cor. 14. 34. 35. 1 Tim. 2. 12.) with Pastors, Doctors and Elders, seeing they are the body and Spouse of Christ, no less then men: God accepteth no persons, nor sexes, male or female, in these spiritual privileges, Gal. 3. •8. 2 Cor. 6. 18. 1 Pet. 3. 4, 5, 6. But seeing discipline concerneth all divers ways, according as God hath seated and placed persons in his Church; some in higher, and some in lower places of Christs body; therefore Ministers are to handle points of doctrine and discipline in Synods authoritatively. People also by electing Commissioners to Synods, by consenting, reasoning, proposing and advising, and according to their place, •ot authoritatively.
Answ. That which concerneth all, one and the same way and the manner, should be handled by all. That which concerneth all, divers and sundry manner of wayes should be handled by all divers manner of wayes: If ten men be owners of a ship, nine of them cannot sell the ship without the consent of the tenth owner: If all both Elders or Ministers, and the whole company of beleevers had one and the same power of the keyes, we see not but all, Ministers and people should have a like hand in voicing and coucluding; nor doe I well see, that if the keyes be given to all beleevers, upon our brethrens former ground, because they are the body and Spouse of Christ, how women and beleeving children can be excluded from joynt-governing and use of the keyes (except in the act of publike teaching,