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The riches of Gods love unto the vessels of mercy, consistent with his absolute…The riches of Gods love unto the vessells of mercy, consistent with his absolute…
The riches of Gods love unto the vessels of mercy, consistent with his absolute hatred or reprobation of the vessels of wrath, or, An answer unto a book entitled, Gods love unto mankind ... in two books, the first being a refutation of the said book, as it was presented in manuscript by Mr Hord unto Sir Nath. Rich., the second being an examination of certain passages inserted into M. Hord's discourse (formerly answered) by an author that conceals his name, but was supposed to be Mr Mason ... / by ... William Twice ... ; whereunto are annexed two tractates of the same author in answer unto D.H. ... ; together with a vindication of D. Twice from the exceptions of Mr John Goodwin in his Redemption redeemed, by Henry Jeans ...The riches of Gods love unto the vessells of mercy, consistent with his absolute hatred or reprobation of the vessells of wrath, or, An answer unto a book entituled, Gods love unto mankind ... in two bookes, the first being a refutation of the said booke, as it was presented in manuscript by Mr Hord unto Sir Nath. Rich., the second being an examination of certain passages inserted into M. Hords discourse (formerly answered) by an author that conceales his name, but was supposed to be Mr Mason ... / by ... William Twisse ... ; whereunto are annexed two tractates of the same author in answer unto D.H. ... ; together with a vindication of D. Twisse from the exceptions of Mr John Goodwin in his Redemption redeemed, by Henry Jeanes ...
Oxford: printed by L.L. and H.H. for Tho. Robinson, 1653
An Answer to a Letter of D. H. concerning Gods Decrees definite or… › Part 2: II.
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Resp. That eighth Thesis aforesaid made no mention of priority in decree or intention, but only of priority in execution, by virtue of Gods decree: for the words of that eighth Thesis are these; God decreeth first to produce that subject, and afterwards to work such an effect thereupon. Not that God did first decree to produce the subject: but only that God did decree first to produce the subject: manifesting hereby, that your intent is, only to reason from the order of execution, and therehence to infer the like order in intention, which is the ordinary course of Arminians at this day. And you signify your meaning to be this, in that eighth Thesis, though in the issue you fail of right accommodating it; for your words are these, If any decree be concerning the working of a certain effect in such a subject as cannot possibly exist without the producing of that subject, then we may suppose, that he doth first decree, (thus you would say, though indeed you say otherwise) to produce that subject, and afterwards to work such an effect thereupon, which in plain terms is to argue thus; The permission of Adams sin presupposeth the creation of Adam, therefore the decree of pe• to create Adams sin, presupposeth the decree of Adams creation: Now this is the Resp. •gh way to Arminianism, and Pelagianism in the highest decree, as I showed you in my first; the evidence whereof, as it seems, drave you to acknowledge it, and to devise some other course, for maintenance of the Tenet of massa ⟨p. 185⟩corrupta: yet through ghout, all the reason you give, is resolved into this: for as there I said, herehence it will follow in like manner, that because damnation presupposeth all actual sins, therefore the decree of damnation presupposeth the decree of permitting of all actual sins, and consequently, the foresight of them. In like manner, because salvation presupposeth all manner of good works in men of ripe years, therefore the decree of salvation, presupposeth the decree of giving effectual grace, for the performing of all manner of good works, and the foresight of them, which is direct Pelagianism in the highest degree.
Resp. That eighth Thesis aforesaid made no mention of priority in decree or intention, but onely of priority in execution, by vertue of Gods decree: for the words of that eighth Thesis are these; God decreeth first to produce that subject, and afterwards to worke such an effect thereupon. Not that God did first decree to produce the subject: but onely that God did decree first to produce the subject: manifesting hereby, that your intent is, onely to reason from the order of execution, and therehence to inferre the like order in intention, which is the ordinary course of Arminians at this day. And you signifie your meaning to be this, in that eighth Thesis, though in the issue you faile of right accommodating it; for your words are these, If any decree be concerning the working of a certaine effect in such a subject as cannot possibly exist without the producing of that subject, then we may suppose, that he doth first decree, (thus you would say, though indeed you say otherwise) to produce that subject, and afterwards to worke such an effect thereupon, which in plaine tearmes is to argue thus; The permission of Adams sinne presupposeth the creation of Adam, therefore the decree of pe to create Adams sinne, presupposeth the decree of Adams creation: Now this is the Resp. gh way to Arminianisme, and Pelagianisme in the highest decree, as I shewed you in my first; the evidence whereof, as it seemes, drave you to acknowledge it, and to devise some other course, for maintenance of the Tenet of massa