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Acts and monuments of matters most special and memorable, happening in the Church. [vol. 2, part 2] with an universal history of the same, wherein is set forth at large the whole race and course of the Church, from the primitive age to these latter times of ours, with the bloody times, horrible troubles, and great persecutions against the true martyrs of Christ, sought and wrought as well by heathen emperors, as now lately practised by Romish prelates, especially in this realm of England and Scotland. Newly revised and recognised, partly also augmented, and now the fourth time again published and recommended to the studious reader, by the author (through the help of Christ our Lord) John Fox, which desireth thee good reader to help him with thy prayer.Actes and monuments of matters most speciall and memorable, happenyng in the Church. [vol. 2, part 2] with an vniuersall history of the same, wherein is set forth at large the whole race and course of the Church, from the primitiue age to these latter tymes of ours, with the bloudy times, horrible troubles, and great persecutions agaynst the true martyrs of Christ, sought and wrought as well by heathen emperours, as nowe lately practised by Romish prelates, especially in this realme of England and Scotland. Newly reuised and recognised, partly also augmented, and now the fourth time agayne published and recommended to the studious reader, by the author (through the helpe of Christ our Lord) Iohn Foxe, which desireth thee good reader to helpe him with thy prayer.
London: printed by John Daye, 1583London: printed by Iohn Daye, 1583
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Newman. It is a figurative speech, one thing spoken, and an other meant, as Christ saith: I am a vine, I am a door, I am a stone, &c. Is he therefore a material stone, a vine, or a door?
Newman. It is a figuratiue speach, one thing spoken, and an other ment, as Christ sayth: I am a vine, I am a dore, I am a stone, &c. Is hee therefore a materiall stone, a vine, or a dore?
Doct. This is no figurative speech. For he saith: This is my body which is given for you, & so saith he not of the stone vine, or door: but that is a figurative speech.
Doct. This is no figuratiue speache. For he sayth: This is my body which is geuen for you, & so sayth he not of the stone vyne, or dore: but that is a figuratiue speach.
New. Christ saith, this cup is the new Testament in my blood. 1If ye will have it so meant, then let them take and eat the Cup.
New. Christ sayth, this cup is the new Testament in my bloud. 1If ye will haue it so meant, then let them take and eate the Cup.
Doct. Nay, that is not so meant, so it is a common phrase of speech among our selves: we say to our friend, drink a cup of drink, and yet we mean he should drink the drink in the cup.
Doct. Nay, that is not so meant, so it is a common phrase of speache among our selues: we say to our friende, drinke a cup of drinke, and yet we meane hee shoulde drinke the drinke in the cup.
New. Why if we will have the one so understood, ye must so understand the other.
New. Why if we will haue the one so vnderstoode, ye must so vnderstande the other.
Doct. Nay, it is a common use of speech, to say drink a cup of Ale, or Beer? And therefore it is no figurative speech.
Doct. Nay, it is a common vse of speach, to say drynke a cup of Ale, or Beere? And therefore it is no figuratiue speache.
New. The often using of a thing doth not make that thing otherwise then it is:1 but where soever one thing is spoken and an other meant, it is a figurative speech.
New. The often vsing of a thing doth not make that thing otherwise then it is:1 but where soeuer one thing is spoken and an other ment, it is a figuratiue speach.
Doct. Well, we will not stand here about. Howe say ye by the real presence? Is not christs natural body there that was borne of the virgin Mary?
Doct. Well, we will not stand here about. Howe say ye by the reall presence? Is not christes naturall body there that was borne of the virgine Mary?
New. No, I do not so believe, neither can I so believe: for the soul of man doth not feed upon natural things, as the body doth.
New. No, I do not so beleue, neither can I so beleeue: for the soule of man doth not feede vpon naturall thinges, as the body doth.
Doct. Why, how then doth he feed?
Doct. Why, how then doth he feede?
New. I think the soul of man doth feed as the Angels in heaven, whose feeding is only the pleasure, joy felicity, and delectation that they have of God: & so the soul of man doth feed and eat, through faith, the body of Christ.
New. I thinke the soule of manne dothe feede as the Aungelles in heauen, whose feedyng is onely the pleasue, ioye felicitie, and delectation that they haue of God: & so the soule of man doth feede and eate, through fayth, the body of Christ.
Colens. Yea, but if the body do not feed upon natural things, the soul cannot continue with the body:1 therefore the body must needs feed upon natural things, that both may live together.
Colens. Yea, but if the body doe not feede vppon naturall thinges, the soule cannot continue with the body:1 therefore the body must needes feede vppon naturall thinges, that both may liue together.
New. I grant it to be true: but yet the soul doth live otherwise then the body, which doth perish: therefore natural things do but feed the body only. I pray you what did Judas receive at the supper.
New. I graunt it to be true: but yet the soule dothe liue otherwise then the bodye, whiche doth pearysh: therefore naturall thinges do but feede the body onely. I pray you what did Iudas receiue at the supper.
Colens. Mary, Judas did receive the very body of Christ but it was to his damnation.
Colens. Mary, Iudas did receaue the very body of Chryst but it was to hys damnation.
Newman. Why? was the Devil entered into him before.1 Then he had both the Devil and Christ in him at one time.
Newman. Why? was the Deuill entred into him before.1 Then he hadde both the Deuill and Chryst in hym at one tyme.
Colens. Nay, the devil did enter into him afterward.
Colens. Nay, the deuill did enter into him afterwade.
