A86003:119
Male audis or An answer to Mr. Coleman his Malè dicis. Wherein the repugnancy…
Male audis or An answer to Mr. Coleman his Malè dicis. Wherein the repugnancy of his Erastian doctrine to the word of God, to the solemn League and Covenant, and to the ordinances of Parliament: also his contradictions, tergiversations, heterodoxies, calumnies, and perverting of testimonies, are made more apparent then formerly. Together with some animadversions upon Master Hussey his Plea for Christian magistracy: showing, that in divers of the afore mentioned particulars he hath miscarried as much, and in some particulars more then Mr Coleman. / By George Gillespie, minister at Edinburgh. Published by authority.Male audis or An answer to Mr. Coleman his Malè dicis. Wherein the repugnancy of his Erastian doctrine to the word of God, to the solemne League and Covenant, and to the ordinances of Parliament: also his contradictions, tergiversations, heterodoxies, calumnies, and perverting of testimonies, are made more apparent then formerly. Together with some animadversions upon Master Hussey his Plea for Christian magistracy: shewing, that in divers of the afore mentioned particulars he hath miscarried as much, and in some particulars more then Mr Coleman. / By George Gillespie, minister at Edinbrugh. Published by authority.
London: printed for Robert Bostocke, 1646
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The Reverend Brother notwithstanding of their plain Testimonies speaking for me and against him in the main Controversy between him and me, doth still allege that they are for him, not for me, Maledicis, pap. 23. yet he doth not so much as offer any answer to their Testimonies by me cited: only he ⟨p. 53⟩bringeth three other passages of theirs, intimating that there may be a true Church without Excommunication: that they thought it not necessary where they lived: that they thought it hard yea impossible: arduum nec non impossible, to introduce Excommunication in those parts. By which citations the Brother hath proved nothing against me, but confirmed what I said. Let him remember, first, he himself makes the main controversy between him and me, about the Scriptural warrants of Church censures: now in that, they are clearly against him. Next Aretius who thought it hard, yea impossible, to bring in Excommunication at that time, saith also, dabit posterior at as tractabili•res forte animas, peradventure the following age shall bring forth more tractable souls: and thereupon he adviseth, not to despair of the restitution of Excommunication. I cited also other Testimonies to show that the Zurick Divines did endeavour and long for the discipline of Excommunication, though as things stood then and there, they did prudentially supersede the restoring of it where they lived, because of the difficulty and apprehended impossibility of the thing. If Mr. Coleman will follow the Zurick Divines, he must change his tone, and quite alter the state of the Question, and make it thus: Whether as things now stand it be expedient to settle Excommunication in the Church of England? Now, if he make this the state of the Question, then he must make a Revocation of that word, I deny an Institution, I assent to a Prudence. For the Tables were turned with the Zurick Divines: they assented to an Institution, they denied a Prudence; they held an affirmative precept for Excommunication, but that it doth not bind ad semper, that the thing is not at all times, nor in all places necessary; that weighty inconveniences may warrant the superseding of it.
The Reverend Brother notwithstanding of their plaine Testimonies speaking for me and against him in the maine Controversie betweene him and me, doth still alledge that they are for him, not for me, Maledicis, pap. 23. yet he doth not so much as offer any answer to their Testimonies by me cited: onely he ⟨p. 53⟩