A86003:24
Male audis or An answer to Mr. Coleman his Malè dicis. Wherein the repugnancy…
Male audis or An answer to Mr. Coleman his Malè dicis. Wherein the repugnancy of his Erastian doctrine to the word of God, to the solemn League and Covenant, and to the ordinances of Parliament: also his contradictions, tergiversations, heterodoxies, calumnies, and perverting of testimonies, are made more apparent then formerly. Together with some animadversions upon Master Hussey his Plea for Christian magistracy: showing, that in divers of the afore mentioned particulars he hath miscarried as much, and in some particulars more then Mr Coleman. / By George Gillespie, minister at Edinburgh. Published by authority.Male audis or An answer to Mr. Coleman his Malè dicis. Wherein the repugnancy of his Erastian doctrine to the word of God, to the solemne League and Covenant, and to the ordinances of Parliament: also his contradictions, tergiversations, heterodoxies, calumnies, and perverting of testimonies, are made more apparent then formerly. Together with some animadversions upon Master Hussey his Plea for Christian magistracy: shewing, that in divers of the afore mentioned particulars he hath miscarried as much, and in some particulars more then Mr Coleman. / By George Gillespie, minister at Edinbrugh. Published by authority.
London: printed for Robert Bostocke, 1646
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Secondly, Master Coleman answereth to all these three Texts. To that 1 Thes. 5. 12. Them which are over you in the Lord, he saith that these words prove not that it is not meant of Magistracy. But he takes not the strength of the Argument. My words were, Here are some who are no Civil Magistrates set over the Thessalonians in the Lord. This the Reverend Brother must admit to be a good proof, or otherwise say, that the Civil Magistrates set over the Thessalonians, though they were Heathens, yet were set over them in the Lord.
For that of 1 Tim. 5. 17. He saith it doth not hold out Ruling Elders: Whether it doth hold Ruling Elders or not, doth not at all belong to the present Question. It is easy to answer something, so that a man will not tie himself to speak to the point. The place was brought by me to prove another ⟨p. 8⟩Government beside Magistracy, which he denied. Now suppose the place to be meant only of Preaching Elders, yet here is a Rule or Government, Elders that rule well; and these are no Civil Magistrates, but such as labour in the Word and Doctrine. Come on now. But I will deal clearly, saith the Brother, these Officers are Ministers, which are instituted not here but elsewhere, and these are the Rulers here mentioned. And so have I loosed the knot. Now Sir, you shall see I will not male dicere, but been dicere. My blessing on you for it. You have at last loosed the knot so perfectly, that you are come to an agreement with me, in this great point: Which I thus demonstrate. He that acknowledgeth Ministers to be instituted Rulers, acknowledgeth another instituted Government, beside Magistracy. But Master Coleman acknowledgeth Ministers to be instituted Rulers. Ergo, Master Coleman acknowledgeth another instituted Government beside Magistracy.
For that of 1 Tim. 5. 17. He saith it doth not hold out Ruling Elders: Whether it doth hold Ruling Elders or not, doth not at all belong to the present Question. It is easie to answer something, so that a man will not tie himself to speak to the point. The place was brought by me to prove another