A86003:46
Male audis or An answer to Mr. Coleman his Malè dicis. Wherein the repugnancy…
Male audis or An answer to Mr. Coleman his Malè dicis. Wherein the repugnancy of his Erastian doctrine to the word of God, to the solemn League and Covenant, and to the ordinances of Parliament: also his contradictions, tergiversations, heterodoxies, calumnies, and perverting of testimonies, are made more apparent then formerly. Together with some animadversions upon Master Hussey his Plea for Christian magistracy: showing, that in divers of the afore mentioned particulars he hath miscarried as much, and in some particulars more then Mr Coleman. / By George Gillespie, minister at Edinburgh. Published by authority.Male audis or An answer to Mr. Coleman his Malè dicis. Wherein the repugnancy of his Erastian doctrine to the word of God, to the solemne League and Covenant, and to the ordinances of Parliament: also his contradictions, tergiversations, heterodoxies, calumnies, and perverting of testimonies, are made more apparent then formerly. Together with some animadversions upon Master Hussey his Plea for Christian magistracy: shewing, that in divers of the afore mentioned particulars he hath miscarried as much, and in some particulars more then Mr Coleman. / By George Gillespie, minister at Edinbrugh. Published by authority.
London: printed for Robert Bostocke, 1646
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This, as it is a most notorious untruth (for the constant practice of England hath granted to the Clergy (as he calls them after the Popish Dialect) a power of Deposition and […] ⟨p. 18⟩[…] ⟨p. 19⟩⟨p. 20⟩Excommunication, whereas his way denies all corrective power, or Church-censures to the Ministry) so if it were a truth, it is utterly inconsistent with that which he said of the remaining part, namely, that it will be a new Government. If it be his way, how will he make it the constant practice of England always, and a new Government too?
This, as it is a most notorious untruth (for the constant practice of England hath granted to the Clergy (as he calls them after the Popish Dialect) a power of Deposition and 〈…〉 ⟨p. 18⟩〈…〉 ⟨p. 19⟩⟨p. 20⟩Excommunication, whereas his way denies all corrective power, or Church-censures to the Ministery) so if it were a truth, it is utrerly inconsistent with that which he said of the remaining part, namely, that it will be a new Government. If it be his way, how will he make it the constant practice of England alwaies, and a new Government too?
In the next place the Reverend Brother makes short work of my five Arguments, to prove the repugnancy of his Doctrine to the solemn League and Covenant. They were too hot for him to be much touched upon, All is but this much, saith he, The Covenant mentioneth and supposeth a distinct Church-Government. It is hard when Arguments are neither repeated nor answered. He repeats a Point which was proved (and but a part of that) but not the proofs. And so he answereth (rather to the conclusion then to the Arguments) these two things. First, saith he, the expressions in the Covenant are according to the general apprehensions of the times, which took such a thing for granted; yet I believe Master Gillespie cannot make such a supposition obligatory. Now you yield Sir what before you eagerly contended against, viz. That the Covenant doth suppose a Church-Government. Remember your Simile of the Jury sworn to enquire into the felony of a Prisoner, which Oath doth not suppose the Prisoner to be guilty of felony, but he is to be tried, Guilty or not Guilty. We are now so far agreed, that the Covenant doth suppose a Church-Government distinct from the civill Government, and yet not merely Doctrinal, for that was the point which I proved, and which here he yields. As for the obligation of an Oath sworn upon such supposition, I answer. 1. It is more then supposed, the words and expressions of the Covenant do plainly hold out the thing as I proved, and as the Reverend Brother seems here to yield. 2. That which an Oath doth necessarily suppose, if the Oath be lawful, and the thing supposed lawful, is without all controversy obligatory. Now the Reverend Bother doth acknowledge both the Covenant it self,